On Tuesday 17 December 2002 03.40, Paul Davis wrote:
[...]
i've heard l.shankar, the phenomenal player of a
double-necked
electric violin (he's not bad on the traditional instrument as
well) count indian talas in 3.5 beats and 9.5 beats. he counts:
1--2--3-1--2--3-1--2--3-1 ...
and
1--2--3--4--5--6--7--8--9-1--2--3--4--5--6--7--8-9-1 ...
perhaps any western musician would count
1-2-3-4-5-6-7-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-1 ...
but he'd find it harder to collaborate with the people that
actually play this kind of music as part of their own culture.
In fact, if you try just playing along with your sequencer, you'll
quickly realize that just counting doesn't work. Try it!
(Hint: Input it step-time first, and play it. Listen to the wandering
*relation* between the beats. Start easy with 2:3, 3:4 etc.)
i've
also heard and watched both zakir hussain and v. vikaryam count
talas, and believe me, they don't do what you propose a musician
would do.
I bet. Didn't take me much experimentation to realize it doesn't
really have much to do with the counting at all.
2) the first
time somebody uses 1/3 and 1/4 at the same time,
accumulating beat algorithms don't give the same result
reliably where they should.
hmm. i'm not sure of this. i'm not entirely clear what you mean by
these nomenclatures. do you mean "1 beat per measure,
beat-note-value = a third note" and "1 beat per measure,
beat-note-value = a quarter note"? or something else.
Isn't that just 3 notes + 4 notes in one bar?
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