22 Feb
2009
22 Feb
'09
9:40 p.m.
Do plugins have any more sense of time than your average herd of cows?
In goes sunlight and green grass, and out comes a healthy amount of milk
and fresh manure ..
The only kinds of "plugins" that has a sense of time in our world are
those who are recording either audio or midi, and these are those we
would normally prefer to define as our toplevel hosts.
/j
On Sun, 2009-02-22 at 15:46 -0500, David Robillard wrote:
On Sat, 2009-02-21 at 14:55 -0500, Paul Davis wrote:
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Darren Landrum
<darren.landrum(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
If one were to build a "kernel" to a digital audio workstation
that was
itself a bare-bones LV2 host, could things like audio tracks,
midi
tracks, and mixer channels and the like be built as LV2
plug-ins?
if you want to understand why this is hard (not
impossible, just
hard), go read the ardour source code and find all the places where
*unexpected* inter-object dependencies appear. then figure out how to
remove them. if you can do that, you'll be able to make a modular
system work. if not, you'll at least understand why nobody has else
has been able to do it so far.
Exactly as hard as Jack doing transport...
Anyway, just because the signal flow aspect of things is patching
doesn't mean transport has to be. There's no fundamental reason this is
any harder than it is to solve in Ardour. Objects are objects at the
end of the day. You could even do it by controlling the transport over
wires if you wanted to (messages are messages at the end of the day) but
it would be a huge mess you would want to hide from the user anyway, so
not a lot of point.
There's no technological reason this is infeasible or particularly
difficult, it's just a lot of work.
-dr
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