15 Jun
2009
15 Jun
'09
1:03 p.m.
What I'm personally trying to achieve is a
more "flexible" way
(compared
to what is currently a bit hard-coded in JAKC2 SVN) so that a DBus
control component can be coded as a "plugin" to be possibly loaded in
JACK server process. This new plugin model allows to keep basically 2
ways of using JACK server : the "old way" (typically starting the
jackd
server using Qjackctl control application) or the new way using DBus
based control applications (after the DBus control plug-in has been
properly loaded in JACK server). (Keeping the "old-way" is also
important on others platforms JACK2 runs on.)
Distributions will certainly enable the D-Bus code in JACK if they
ship it. So, I have no problem with depending on a dbus'ified jack for
this logic to work. After all crazy folks who disable the dbus support
in jack because they think it's an abomination probably think that PA
is an even worse abomination anyway, so there's not need to cater for
them.
Well me current role as I see it is to try to keep "guardians" and
"rebels" on the same boat...
If this new "control plugin" model is
finally accepted by JACK
community, then we'll distribute/package JACK2 compiled with the 1)
option, so that it (at least) cooperates with PulseAudio. But 2)
would
then be optional, so PA can not rely on the DBus control plug-in to
always be present.
The 1) code uses "org.freedesktop.ReserveDevice1.AudioXX" name,
and 2)
optional DBus plugin uses "org.jackaudio.service" name. If we want to
implement your proposal, the we would need to request another name
in 1)
part, is that correct?
I think org.jackaudio.service should be fine. I don't think this
automatic logic needs to work on non-D-Bus jack builds. As I see it
you don't need to make any changes on jack for this to work. All I
need is the guarantee that by the time the service name is registered
on the bus jack is fully accessible. Otherwise we had a race here: if
PA looks for the org.jackaudio.service name to appear on the bus and
then imemdiately connects to it while jack isn't fully accessible yet
PA would fail.
This is not the case right now. The org.jackaudio.service is started
and then DBus control application can access it, to configure, start/
stop the server... This mean that the JACK server is not always started.
So I guess we'll have to implement something new in the 1) part, since
I guess we want this JACK/PA cooperation, even if users are not using
DBus based control applications to control JACK.
Stephane