29 Jul
2011
29 Jul
'11
8:39 p.m.
On Fri, 2011-07-29 at 13:21 -0500, Gabriel Beddingfield wrote:
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:00 PM, David Robillard
<d(a)drobilla.net> wrote:
http://drobilla.net/docs/lilv/
I don't think that's too abstract for your average dev. It's a library
API. Certainly your average dev can use a library.
Would renaming this "The LV2 SDK(R)(TM)" actually improve anything?
The focus here is wrong. I'm sure there *are* things we can do to ease
adoption even further. Effort into finding and improving those things
would certainly be great. Documentation and a more friendly site, for
example.
Maybe some of those things people tend to _associate with_ an "official
SDK", but this is not the same as needing an official SDK. We are not
Steinberg. Discussing arbitrary silly labels is a waste of time.
Tackling actual problems that impede adoption, though, certainly not a
waste of time. By all means, let's find those things, make a list on
the Wiki, and tackle them.
... Though, that said, I think hand-wavey discussions about "adoption"
and whatever are mostly hot air in general. Developers who have an
actual interest in implementing things will do so, and have done so. I
think the hypothetical situation of a developer who is genuinely about
to do the work being deterred by there being no "official SDK" or
whatever little aesthetic details is a fantasy. I fully support any
effort to make things more friendly at face value, but... whatever,
really. Less talk, more rock.
-dr
Don't get me wrong, I think the site should be reworked to be as
friendly as possible, to make finding appropriate implementations as
easy as possible, and all that, but declaring an "official SDK" or
whatever just strikes me as silly. You're basically asking if I think
modularity is bad. No, I very emphatically do not think that at all. ;)
I /personally/ agree that an "official SDK" is silly... be it LV2 or
Android or Qt or MeeGo or whatever. I'm a developer... why would I
want to use some mickey-mouse SDK? Give me the headers... and a
chroot... and emacs... and a beer!
However, these mickey-mouse SDK's /do/ foster adaptation of the
technology. There's a whole generation of ADHD Devs who are looking
for some kind of gooey instant gratification. "Oooo, an Eclipse
plug-in! Shiny!"
...and there's the fact that LV2 really /is/
just-a-little-too-abstract for your average dev.
So, while the idea of an LV2 SDK disgusts me (personally)... Olivier
is right that it would accelerate developer acceptance.