[LAD] Pipewire help?

My QJackCtl Patchbay doesn't work any more and it's obvious there are new ways to get similar functionality with WirePlumber, but a little example would help. I seem to want to pipe the output of pw-link -l somewhere (pw-link -l | wireplumber --make_it_so). Need to always connect jack-play this way: $ pw-link -l alsa_output.usb-EDIROL_M-16DX-00.pro-output-0:playback_AUX0 |<- jack-play:out_1 alsa_output.usb-EDIROL_M-16DX-00.pro-output-0:playback_AUX1 |<- jack-play:out_2 jack-play:out_1 |-> alsa_output.usb-EDIROL_M-16DX-00.pro-output-0:playback_AUX0 jack-play:out_2 |-> alsa_output.usb-EDIROL_M-16DX-00.pro-output-0:playback_AUX1 Thanks. -- It gets harder to learn new things as we gets old.