2013/2/7 David Robillard <d(a)drobilla.net>
On Tue, 2013-02-05 at 09:58 -0500, Dave Phillips
wrote:
[...]
So, in your honest and bold opinion as user
and/or developer, what do we
lack most and what can we do without that we already have ?
Well, post a thread about what people think sucks, and you'll get page
after page after page after page like we see here.
Post a thread asking for actual help on any of these things and I'd be
surprised if you get a single reply.
sad but true ... or not ?
i have been actively contributing to Hydrogen for over 2 years now and i
have spend quite a bit of time trying to get more people involved (the
drumkit contest was the most recent attempt that had some visibility, but
there have been other attempts)
my conclusion is that it _is_ possible to attract new people, but you have
to invest a LOT of time into it. A general 'we are looking for people to
help out' broadcast is ok for a start, but once/if you get a reaction you
need to make sure that you email this person directly, keep in touch and
keep motivating him/her _constantly_
After all you are relying on someones goodwill so you need to keep them
happy. (this might sound weird or plain wrong, but that's the reality)
Lucky for me i'm no good at coding anyway, so i'm not wasting time (that i
could use to write code) talking to people
On the other hand i know that there are a lot of people out there that want
to help, but automatically think that we only need people that write code.
Not true of course !
IMHO keeping the manual/site/forum clean and up to date is JUST AS
IMPORTANT as delivering good apps
Sadly it sometimes happens that we simply scare off these people due to too
much tech talk, or because of the need to 'stay in charge of our beloved
project'
Also this is perfectly understandable, but i feel that any project
would benefit from having 1 ore more non-technical people that 'interface'
between the user and the developer
Hydrogen was the audio app that triggered my interest in linux and linux
audio (now over 7 years ago) but sadly i had to stop working on the project
recently due to a lac of time and a change in priorities.
However, i hope i can find some spare time in the near future and jump back
on board ;-) there is always work to be done !
after writing this i am still left with 1 final question :
It is good that we can have this kind of discussion, and i think we all see
and knowledge that there are several challenges, but ...
will we find a way to come together and make this work ... ?
Linux audio rocks !
Grtz
Thijs
The one and only thing we lack is people doing constructive work.
Please, try to speak your piece without flames or
dissing other
developers and/or their work. Frankly speaking, I've had enough of
that crap, and I'm most thankful these days for such forum amenities
as, "mute user" and autodiscard, along with the standard filters found
in mail clients.
The only appropriate response to complainers. We all complain
sometimes, but people who do nothing but complain are nothing but toxic.
I hope this thread didn't go that way, but I'm sure as hell not going to
read it to find out ;)
-dr
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