4 Sep
2004
4 Sep
'04
5:55 a.m.
On lör, 2004-09-04 at 01:41, Dave Robillard wrote:
In monomode, with sustain pedal down, it would be continous ..
On Fri, 2004-09-03 at 02:52, Jens M Andreasen wrote:
Is not the same as what?
On ons, 2004-09-01 at 21:26, Dave Robillard
wrote:
Way, way, way too tedious to be practical. It's of course possible to
do pitchbends, but it's not the same. On Wed, 2004-09-01 at 07:48, martin rumori
wrote:
Isn't this very similar to drawing the midi-pitchbend? EditTrack did
that in the 80's. You could also draw values for volume and controllers
if you wanted sophisticated envelopes. On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 11:31:01AM +0100, Steve
Harris wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 10:03:18 +0100, Dave Griffiths wrote:
> > so if I'm writing a osc sequencer, is the best plan to leave the
> > mapping open for the user to modify?
>
> I would say so yes, its possible that an OSC schema spe will be
> standardised at soem point that would make it easier.
not to mention the microtone-capabilities of your osc sequencer and
the sophisticated envelope control functions, which are hard to cover
with pure midi... :-))
Imagine a sequencer where, instead of little straight bars representing
notes, the 'piano roll' just allowed you to draw a line to represent
frequency.. with any angle, straight or curved (bezier), etc. Wow..
Control could be like that too, with overlay and everything, but having
that for pitch would be amazing.. has something like this ever been done
before?
IIRC mouse-dragging in the piano-roll would
"spray paint" notes all over
the place ... Combine that with a synth patch with very closely spaced
notes and we are getting pretty close to what you are talking about.
Perhaps with a bit of portamento to smooth out the rough edges
Not really at all... like you said, it would be a whole whack of "spray
painted" notes, not one continuous note. ... The point was it
would be nice
to be able to break out of the limitations of MIDIs notes.
OK. Then we are back to modifying pitcbend and controllers which *will*
give you unlimited continous control of a note. If we stick to the
intended use of midi, that is still a 16 voice part. My point being that
it can be done in OSC or MIDI, the protocol is not an issue. The problem
lies in presenting and manipulating the data which will be tedious
either way.
You could write a MIDI sequencer that abstracts this and uses noteons
and pitchbend to do it of course, but it doesn't exist right now (in the
free world anyway) AFAIK
You wouldn't need any noteons (ok, perhaps one to get started) if volume
was a continous controller. If you want to break out of the limitations,
you can do that today. These are not the noteons you are looking for ...
/jens
-DR-