On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:10:35 -0400
 Paul Davis <paul(a)linuxaudiosystems.com> wrote:
  On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Ralf Mardorf
 <ralf.mardorf(a)alice-dsl.net> wrote:
  @ nonsense and bullshit, where are the examples
that it works?
 There is no valid recording with more than 1 or 2 channels, regarding to
 a natural impression. Some art projects that didn't try to give a
 natural impression are something very, very different.
 Most audio engineers still fail regarding to stereo and mono issues. I
 wonder about the geniuses who are able to do 5.1 and all the other
 stuff.
 Please post links to the geniuses work, but call me names. 
 ralf, you simply don't have any idea what you're talking about, unless
 you try to limit your comments to commercially released material. you
 made no indication that  you intended to use this limitation.
 people have been recording with/for ambisonics for nearly 40 years
 now. recording with multiple microphones (including things like the
 eigenmike 
http://www.mhacoustics.com/mh_acoustics/Eigenmike_microphone_array.html
 which by itself makes your point null and void) is common enough that
 sound on sound has articles on it. 
 I remember when 2001 first came out, being totally astonished by the
 sequence where the ape-man first uses a bone as a club. There was the
 totally realistic effect of a gust of wind moving from the screen to the
 rear of the cinema. I've no idea what system was in use, but it
 certainly wasn't 2 channel stereo!