Re: [linux-audio-dev] About Kylix, music, Linux, etc.

Yep! But the new Kylix also has the same thing as Borland C++ Builder built into it. You no longer need to use strictly Pascal for it! (you mention this later on..) I learned to program in Turbo Pascal and a dying VAX mainframe. ANSI C was being taught as an extracurricular program at my school, I took the course, and I never went back to Pascal again. That was what I was wondering about in the license. Actually I did find the license (it helped to install it yah know, it will display it. I was searching the website all over to find it). I really really think, just as someone who has been programming C++ since it first became available on PCs (do you rememeber CFront?!) that Borland C++ Builder was the single most important C++ tool ever made. I was always sad that people could not get past it being a mickey-mouse tool. I have been using Borland C++ Builder since version 3 and trying in vain to get people to see the light with this tool. When I found out that Kylix 3 had Builder in it more or less, and was Open and free, I was extremely excited. I had been watching Kylix since version 2, but back than it was Delphi only. I hadn't done pascal since Turbo Pascal about 6 years ago. Kylix was a major factor in me coming to Linux (again). At last I had a tool I knew how to use to make work on Linux. But I have not gotten around to using it yet because I don't know how Linux people will react to it. They are a funny lot and I don't always understand them. The major thing that kept me back from Linux was that I don't understand the tools on it to do things. I learned on Borland tools. I was raised lazy to expect IDEs to make make files and autoconf stuff for you. IMHO that stuff is mundane and the job of automated tools anyways. Visual C++ was IMO the biggest failure ever. The only reason I used Visual C++ 6 was because I could plug Intel C++ compiler into it and make ATL objects for use in Visual Basic with it's super optimizing compiler. But I'm all half-assed in this Linux world. I am beginning to get the hacker spirit to hack into things and figure them out. I am beginning to let go of my training wheel mentality and just dig in. But it's really nice to have a tool I know how to use well on this system now. But it does have something to do with LAD. I am using it to build a serious GUI for audio programs. I want to make something that looks like Reason on Linux. I can not do this with GTK or FLTK. It might be possible but I don't know enough of how to get them to do it. With Kylix I can do it because I at least know the tools. My only other solution was to use SDL and build a whole GUI kit on it, but it has some serious limitations to that approach. I dunno I know the Linux people have strange issues with commercial companies coming into the scene so that is why I was working the hard way to use the tools they have available and make ends meet and be happy with everybody. But having Kylix is so tempting to break it out and do something really impressive with it and turn some heads. Show people what you can do with it. And that's how Linux people are. You show them you can do some cool thing with some thing, and they will all go and make their own versions of it, and you get new and diverse things going on. Qt-Designer is coming real close to Borland C++ Builder. I think pretty soon it will be a fully blown Builder like program. It just takes some impetus to get people to notice how powerful that way of doing things can be. So I guess I will go off and do something impressive with Kylix. I guarantee if I pull it off you will see all the Linux masters make something better than it. You just gotta turn some heads and get people to notice.