4 Jul
2006
4 Jul
'06
3:48 a.m.
I have a simple question:
Which companies are (or have been) distributing LinuxSampler as part of
a package also including hardware and/or proprietary software?
Cheers,
Andreas
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Paul Davis wrote:
On Tue, 2006-07-04 at 10:22 +1000, Ryan Heise wrote:
On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 05:55:11PM -0400, Paul
Davis wrote:
there is a big difference in how a developer might see this depending on
the relationship with the other party. lets take a concrete case that i
*can* talk about freely. we are quite open about the fact that there are
commercial organizations that have both financially supported Ardour's
development and have also been evangelizing for it quite energetically
in some key high end markets. that has created positive relationships to
date.
now suppose (and i want to stress that i am not for one moment
suggesting that i believe that this will happen) that one such
relationship turned ugly. lets say, really ugly. really ugly as in "if
you ever even talk about how ugly this got, we'll see you in court, if
not before.". or uglier. you get the idea.
how do you think that i and the many other people who have worked on
ardour would feel about allowing a company that ended up putting us in
this situation to continue to ardour under the GPL?
we would not be able to stop it, and i would hope that i would have the
honor and class not to even try, but it would clearly leave a very sour
taste in my mouth (and others' mouths too, i suspect).
something broadly analogous to this happened to the LS guys. unless you
can say in all sincerity that you'd be able to just wave it past you,
smile sweetly and mutter "oh, that's just the GPL at work", i think you
have to be careful when judging other people's actions.
and for this history buffs, i seem to recall that it was precisely this
kind of situation that gave rise to the Aladdin Public License, from the
person who wrote GhostScript.
--p
both guesses are wrong. i think it will be
precise enough to say that a
company expressed what appeared to be a serious interest in leveraging
the existence of LS for its own plans. relationships changed between the
various parties, and the LS developers were left in a situation where
work they had already done might be used in ways they did not consent
to. Meanwhile, the company felt that it was the LS developers who had
failed to follow through on the agreement. i don't think its feasible to
be more precise than this.
the core point of the story is that you cannot stop other organizations
from making use of your GPL-licensed work even if you have entered into
some different kind of arrangement with them. for some people, this
represents a serious issue.
Licensing software under the GPL is giving others consent to use that
software commercially in certain ways. If there was an additional
agreement with this specific company that they would not use it in some
of those ways, it still wouldn't stop other companies who haven't signed
that additional agreement to use the software in whatever way was
granted to them under the GPL. What confuses me is why the authors of
the software chose to release the code under the GPL and also didn't (as
it seems) want to consent to others using the software in some of the
ways granted by the GPL. Do I have the wrong picture? (maybe I do, I am
just going on the little information provided above.)