4 Mar
2012
4 Mar
'12
3:31 a.m.
On Sat, 2012-03-03 at 23:20 +0100, Albert Graef wrote:
On 03/03/2012 08:25 PM, David Robillard wrote:
I suppose this would be useful in some limited sense.
However, I doubt Ardour ever will, nor do I think it even should,
support sequencing of events that are transmitted by some mechanism
other than Jack. That would be a gigantic inconsistent mess for more
reasons than I feel like listing, and trying to use UDP or whatever
directly in a DAW raises a very large number of very deep questions for
no benefit (hell, anti-benefit, Jack rules). Integration with IP based
OSC transport should happen via a separate Jack program.
Put in other terms, I think Ardour should support "OSC Messages". Not
OSC in UDP/TCP/IP. If the community solves Jack OSC, it will get Ardour
OSC pretty quickly. However, I am kind of through with OSC personally,
so I don't intend to put any real effort into the Jack side of that
problem.
Sure, you could just implement dumb raw OSC
recording and playback, but
there's little point in using a DAW for that (not to mention little
practical musical use)
But that's exactly what I want. For starters, even just simple messages
consisting of address and POD (like a double value) would be useful. The
data might originally be generated with a multitouch OSC device, say,
and would be recorded by the DAW, which would also let me play back the
data OSC has been around since 1997, for crying out loud.
It's about time that sequencers do more with it than just automatizing
the transport controls. ;-)
As Paul pointed out in his response, the reason for this lack is that
OSC simply doesn't do what 99.999999999999% of the people who use a
sequencer want to do. Blindly recording events with no editing or
display ability simply isn't that useful, and certainly doesn't
constitute a MIDI replacement.
That said, it's not like a note standard would actually be difficult.
It will (well, may) get actually made when someone actually needs it.
Since we live in a somewhat closed and more flexible world, the Jack
universe could be the place where that happens. I doubt it will
elsewhere, the commercial guys have gone with custom incompatible USB
protocols for hardware, and simply don't care about software interop.
-dr