Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: linuxaudio.org

Or before it has launched, too early? No one is twisting your arm to support the project. If it isn't doing valuable work, it won't survive, since it depends on volunteer input. I think you should look for harder targets. Why is it so bad to spend a few days putting the website together before it's publically announced? Does no-one on this list get their code in a usable shape before they announce their projects? If you can find time to criticise something that doesn't exist yet, perhaps you could answer that one for me. Just ask. At the moment linuxaudio.org is conceived as a meta-organisation, representing existing projects and companies, rather than individuals directly. Is there a particular project you're involved in? Without a doubt. Can you wait a day? Not all of us. I run my own studio (Linux based of course), and I also write for audio and Linux magazines, which I do get paid for. Not a lot, perhaps, but by contrast the linuxaudio.org role is completely voluntary. And there are other people who are paid to work on Linux audio, or with it. So there are good corporates and bad corporates? If so, can we make the bad ones into good ones by working with them on an equitable basis? I would say the last few years, but I take your point. Quite true - I'm hoping we can avoid exactly this kind of problem by bringing the pro audio industry in from the cold. They're not going away, and neither are we. Consider this - we have dyne:bolic as a member, which is an avowedly anti-corporate project. So far, Microsoft has not asked to join. I don't see that happening in pro audio. Worry about Lindows if you like. They are industry consortia addressing a particular niche market. OK, we may not have their funding, but the principle is the same. I do appreciate the danger, I just wish some people would actually wait to see what linuxaudio.org actually is before supporting or criticising it. I did not choose that, I just didn't discuss it in your preferred forum - which is not the same thing. Actually, I just wanted to make sure that I was doing the right thing before making a public announcement, so I asked the LAD members I knew first. I won't. We'll find out. I find it clearly describes what I'm trying to do - which part is vague? Whatever the members are doing, I suppose. Hardly. Which ones aren't involved in Linux audio? We've got audio hardware, Linux distributions and audio applications represented. This is your key misconception, and I think Marek's as well. Firstly, consortium members can only speak for themselves. The consortium as a whole can only speak for its members. If you don't join, it won't be speaking for you. Cheers Daniel James Director http://linuxaudio.org