28 Sep
2010
28 Sep
'10
4:15 p.m.
On Tue, September 28, 2010 6:35 am, Olivier Guilyardi wrote:
It doesn't have to be. You just need to start with at least one point on
the widget. In fact it could work well with a mouse too.
The widget could look something like a circle with a cross in it. When you
click and drag up the cross opens up and when you click and drag down the
cross closes. This would provide a circular image with a
rectangular/slider single axis movement.
Yes, I'm drooling at the possibilites ;-)
--
Patrick Shirkey
Boost Hardware Ltd.
On 09/28/2010 01:59 PM, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
I missed the earlier discussion, sorry.
There is a couple of things about knobs that
don't translate well to a
mouse and are still fairly cumbersome with multitouch.
I can't get away from the feeling that knobs on a screen are as bad as
screws. They just don't translate intuitively.
Well, I recently tried the TouchOSC iPhone app, which allows you to build
custom
UIs by assembling knobs, sliders, buttons, etc... and assign them to OSC
messages.
The knobs are just brilliant, it's very intuitive I think. It's touch
though,
not multi-touch.
Wouldn't it be more productive to find ways
to make sliders more
visually
expressive?
An interface full of sliders can be confusing and ugly. Knobs + sliders,
that
brings balance I believe.
They are perfectly suited to a single point
cursor and multi touch.
For example instead of a knob why not have an
inset light strip in the
shape of a half circle? ie. a curved slider. It will take up as much
space
as a knob but can be easily manipulated with mouse or finger.
Isn't that what Thorwil's designs, already discussed, propose? They
precisely
are circular sliders *and* level meters. The exact same thing goes with
TouchOSC.
With a 3d
space sliders can be made to do some amazing things. In
addition
there are other control options that become available like pinch, tap,
swipe and shake gestures.
Pinching... That's interesting. But pinching usually requires a large
widget/element, such as a photo, web page. If the widget is too small, you
won't
get as much precision as a single-touch slider, be it circular or linear.
Why constrain
ourselves to a concept we know is a pain for the user if
it
is also gonna be a pain for the developer to implement? If we are going
to
go to all that trouble why not make it something the user will truly
appreciate and increase their productivity.
Yes, but the productivity of a musician isn't only about tools efficiency.
It's
also about inspiration, which isn't necessary rational. That said I agree
with
you about innovation, a creative UI might exactly be what a creative
person need.
Actually, I work a lot on Android these days, and I reckon there's lot of
new
possibilities with touch interfaces. And that's right, do this with a 3D
scene,
and now you got something :)