11 Aug
2010
11 Aug
'10
10:35 p.m.
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 12:26:19PM -0700, Niels Mayer wrote:
In this case, just individual buttons for L and R instead of the panner
would be just fine, and you wouldn't need the mute buttons anynore.
Ciao,
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FA
There are three of them, and Alleline.
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Tim E. Real
<termtech(a)rogers.com> wrote:
Not really, EQ normally being pre-fader. Post-fader meters in a mixer
strip are useful only of the signal being metered is actually one
that is physically available on some connector, e.g. as a direct out.
It would not indicate any overload that occurs pre-fader.
If the signal just goes to a mixing bus (as in the case we are discussing)
then it's individual level is irrelevant - the level on the mixing bus (all
signals summed) may be. But in this case you can't overload the mixing
bus, so even that would be useless.
If we put a pre/post fader button on each digital
mixer strip,
then in post mode the user would have to understand that
what is shown on the meter is affected by the sum of the
digital mixer slider level and some corresponding analog slider level.
That is what is ultimately feeding the mixer after the fader, isn't it?
So this information would be useful to show, wouldn't it?
It is readily 'available', am I correct?:
post-fader meter value = pre-fader meter dB value + slider dB value
While it is true that "mudita24's" meters are perpetually in PFL
(prefade listen) mode -- and this can be confusing to those expecting
an analog mixer, the
AFL (after-fade listen) metering doesn't necessarily make sense in
this mixer. In this case, it doesn't convey new information. In an
analog mixer, for example, it could indicate you've applied too much
gain/eq even if the PFL's were in-range. An initial problem in viewing mudita24 as a
"mixer" : if the "mute" is
on, it doesn't display that, nor the contribution of the faders to the
resulting stereo mix. However, this app is also, or perhaps mostly,
to be used as an input leveling and metering utility alongside a real
mixer and real metering solution in a DAW. The mixer might be used for
it's traditional purpose as a "zero-latency monitoring" solution for
performers, while relegating the final mix to ardour or qtractor --
both of which implement their own mixer and metering and work in the
expected ways as a mixer.
Yes, it can be used in two different ways. If you don't need the zero
latency monitoring (e.g. when the card is connected to a real mixer
anyway) you would not use the card's mixer at all, and set fixed
analog gains.
However I
realised yesterday that each digital mixer strip is STEREO.
That means for post-fader metering, we would need to split the current
single meter into two meters - left and right.
Not if you use the idea of a single fader and a panpot. Then the meter
would be displaying the post-fader level, and the panpot would be
determining how that is actually mapped to the individual channels.