11 Jun
2004
11 Jun
'04
7:15 a.m.
On Fri, Jun 11, 2004 at 10:19:11AM +0200, Alfons Adriaensen wrote:
On Thu, Jun 10, 2004 at 07:24:59PM +0200, Kjetil
Svalastog Matheussen wrote:
My take on this, I hope I can bring this discussion to a friendlier level:
Linux would 'need' an unified gui (look and feel, not so much implementation)
for better usability.
Talking about choice: some people would like to have the choice of using
any (Linux) app with one and the same look and feel (well, except games
and maybe some other special cases).
While choice is in fact a reason for me to use Linux, there's the problem
that choice is mostly limited to incomplete/patchwork solutions (but in the
proprietary software world there are similiar and some other problems).
Freedom and individuality are great, but the power that comes from bundling
efforts (marching in one direction) ...
I understand the hobby/freetime/volunteer aspect, it's not different for me,
only as a designer I need to have programmers cooperation/support.
I understand that programmers like to have free choice of language, libraries
and toolkits (even though it's painful to see reinvention of the wheel all the
time).
There could be an abstraction layer that allows unified gui on the one side,
and free choice of language and interface style on the other (at least to some
degree).
But there must always be some room for new ideas / experiments.
---
Thorsten Wilms
Tim Hockin:
What exactly do you mean by Linux "needing" something ?
And how are you going to impose that single GUI environment ?
Will you take me to court when I write a new window manager. or
a widget that doesn't have your 'imprimatur' ?
If you want your freedom to program limited, please goto
Windoze or MAC. But please do no impose your limitations on
others.
I know Linux people love to claim how choice is our strength, but I think
it's bunk. Linux needs a single GUI environment that has a lot of deep
flexibility
Yes! I completely agree with this.