27 Oct
2008
27 Oct
'08
1:10 p.m.
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Patrick Shirkey wrote:
Robin Gareus wrote:
Well, we won't delete anything ;) We can mark it as "outdated" (or move
it to legacy.linuxaudio.org) and encourage Mr Jones to tag/link
interesting resource there from the wiki. Content that's worth updating
can be refreshed or imported..
da, da,da, daaaa....
Are these are the subdomains that you are referring to?
http://lau.linuxaudio.org
http://lowlatency.linuxaudio.org
http://quicktoots.linuxaudio.org
Are you Mr. Jones junior or senior? ;)
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http://lau.linuxaudio.org and http://quicktoots.linuxaudio.org/
probably remain as is. There are a lot of hidden resources there! -
Maybe some minor updates on the front-page. point to the wiki or
portal.
Ah yes, the fragmentation. _Hidden_ resources are great for Indiana
Jones style explorers, I guess? ;)
I would rather drop old material to have a chance of introducing
something structured, where a newcomer would know where to start and had
a chance of finding stuff without using a pit lamp.
They are all linked to from the portal page and have
fairly simple
structures.
I think Thosten was not only referring to TOC article structure but also
to web-2.0 semantic structures, cross-referencing and finding information.
lau.
- This page was designed to be very simple and provide a non threatening
or overwhelming way in for non technical uses or n00bs. If someone has
suggestions for how to make it even easier for the target reader then
please let me know. I'll see if I can find some time to add a more
obvious link to linuxaudio.org throughout all the documents. Probably
just add a new header/footer, parse the html before loading the page and
dump it into a div. Can't be bothered reworking all the existing pages.
IMHO the lau front-page is just as helpful and confusing for newbies as
http://apps.linuxaudio.org/ - Instead of re-working existing pages they
could gradually be migrated into a wiki. (personally I like the
http://ubuntustudio.org/ website - but not ubuntu itself)
lowlatency.
- If anyone has a suggestion for making the lowlatency page more user
friendly then please let me know. I'm more than happy to fine tune it.
The last time anyone bothered to make a suggestion was at least two
years ago. I guess that means the existing page either provides all the
necessary information or else no one uses it. Probably the latter
because the information has already been assimilated by several distro
tutorials and wikis.
It's a very informative easily printable page that makes a nice read;
but I don't think a single page justifies for a virtual-host; besides
you should get it through http://validator.w3.org/ and adding a license
on how to reproduce lowlatency.linuxaudio.org would be nice. is this
public-domain? GFDL? CC?
In the long run the content could be maintained in a wiki (as long as
you continue to take input, you're be welcome to remain the sole
maintainer if you like). Other wiki-editors could supplement it with
distribution-specific information (back-linking to you) or you can
merge-in content. The current static page does not provide for pingbacks
or anything.
FWIW, we're planning to publish-subscribe rt.wiki.kernel.org
wiki.linuxmusicians.com and wiki.linuxaudio.org early 2009 - Federating
social networks is beyond the scope of this discussion; I'll gladly hook
you up if you're interested.
I'll start a new thread to get a round up on the
latest knowledge to be
added to the page.
One thing that might be useful is an rss feed with the latest updates.
Not sure exactly how it should be managed though... It may also distract
attention from the list/s which is where a lot of announcements are
currently made.
Not distracting at all: The email lists shall remain central to
linuxaudio.org.
We think that we can and should do better, supporting the community with
web services and representation - having a common style among the
*.linuxaudio.org vhosts should not limited to web-design but extend to
collaboration techniques. Discussion here will provide content for the web.
It should be easy to copy/paste content over to eg.
http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/lowlatency and 301 redirect
lowlatency.linuxaudio.org there. You'll get a RSS and Atom feed for free.
quicktoots.
- The basic design and layout of the quicktoots is not going to change
anytime soon. However if someone wants to submit a new tutorial the
space is always open. Of course if someone also wants to make a new skin
then that would be nice too. It's easy to add code for several skins to
be displayed randomly or otherwise.
I'd suggest to collaborate with http://flossmanuals.net/ and
http://www.digitalartistshandbook.org/
Thorsten is right in saying that we should not keep out-of-date
information and drop old material. We have more urgent issues on
linuxaudio.org than lau and quicktoots.
Cheers!
robin
PS. We're currently working on the LAC2009 site; due an announcement
later today. I've just updated apache/php/xcache and will be revisiting
apps, wiki and www with Holger and Burkhard. After this iteration we'll
make a call for designers. - please help out if you can.
The CSS theme and "printable-version" of the wiki may get fixed in the
next weeks until a redesign happens. If no one else does it: It'll be a
snowy weekend task for me in December.
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