12 Feb
2003
12 Feb
'03
2:03 p.m.
On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 09:49, Paul Davis wrote:
ahhh, you are a perfectionist! I see your point. Open source software is
always under dev, unless it's not maintained. You _could_ release
'alpha' versions clearly stating that it is alpha condition.
If you are
interested, I am sure people would pay for binaries of
ardour.I would. I know other musicans that would.I could get more
musicans to. Personally, I have been waiting for it since I first heard
about it. Why not release something?
because i am tired of downloading open source projects that are still
so clearly under development. i am tired of the impression that this
creates. when i get hold of something like freqtweak, which i can
compile or get binaries for, and the thing just works ... that is the
right impression. the wrong impression comes from stupid bugs,
inability to cleanly exit the program (still a core problem with
ardour), and functionality that is obviously necessary and either
missing or incomplete.
People are waiting! Most open
Well, obviously, ardour isn't at the 'release' stage, but perhaps beta
or even alpha. Perhaps someone else with more time, could release a
binary version for you. Pick one or two target dists, and release alpha
binaries or such. You'd certainly get more bug reports. :)
source projects release binaries throughout their
development phase.
Instead of adding cool new features for years on end, why not release
something that musicans can use.
that's precisely what i am trying to do. however, my definition of
"something that musicians can use" might be different from yours. jazz++ has been around for a long time, and is
available as a
binary. why isn't it widely loved and used? because it really isn't
very good. i know that i tried to use it many times, and found it,
well, frankly i found it completely awful.
ardour still has lots of significant bugs and a few
design issues that
need addressing before i want the general population judging it. to
release ready-to-run copies now, or even tarballs that would help
people who can't/won't use CVS to try to compile it ... well, all i
think it would do is to increase the number of people who have "been
there, don't want to go back" with respect to the program.
Personally, I keep checking back to projects that are in some kind of
beta stage, or too buggy to use and look interesting, to see what things
have changed. Heck, I'll even use software day to day that crashes
constantly, if I think it's useful enough. (mozilla - early stages comes
to mind)
when ardour is in a state where i believe (rightly or
wrongly) that a
reasonably typical target user can sit down and just use it without
encountering bugs when recording a typical 12-32 track piece, there
will be binaries.
People are willing now to support you financially now, Paul.Paypal might
be a good idea, if you dont mind begging till ardour is at a point where
you can release to the general public.
--p
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