Good morning
i'm trying to use a Roland R-26 as audio interface (USB).
I saw it is now officially supported in the alsa-driver repo log:
commit aa47d6014f7011b335345ce14836efe358b0cfe5
Author: Clemens Ladisch <clemens(a)ladisch.de>
Date: Sun Mar 31 23:43:12 2013 +0200
ALSA: usb-audio: add support for many Roland/Yamaha devices
Add quirks to detect the various vendor-specific descriptors used by
Roland and Yamaha in most of their recent USB audio and MIDI devices.
...
...
- Roland R-26 Recorder
So i cloned the alsa-driver repo (branch release) and run ./gitcompile.
Everything looks good and alsa force-reload worked.
$ cat /proc/asound/version
Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.25.
Compiled on Sep 2 2013 for kernel 3.2.0-39-lowlatency (SMP).
When the device is plugged in and selected to act as an audio interface,
dmesg says (debug=verbose):
[ 5642.186130] usb 1-5.1: new high-speed USB device number 8 using ehci_hcd
[ 5642.391666] snd-usb-audio: probe of 1-5.1:1.0 failed with error -5
[ 5642.392403] ALSA stream.c:711 >8:1:1: add audio endpoint 0xd
[ 5642.392775] ALSA stream.c:711 >8:2:1: add audio endpoint 0x8e
[ 5642.394385] usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio
$ lsusb | grep Roland
Bus 001 Device 008: ID 0582:013e Roland Corp.
$ cat /proc/asound/cards
0 [R26AUDIO ]: USB-Audio - R-26(AUDIO)
Roland R-26(AUDIO) at usb-0000:00:0b.1-5.1, high speed
After compile, there is a clear warning:
WARNING!!! The mixer channels for the ALSA driver are muted by default!!!
**************************************************************************
You would use some ALSA or OSS mixer to set the appropriate volume.
-> alsamixer says "This sound device does not have any controls." so i
can't unmute anything there.
$ aplay a.wav
Playing WAVE 'rabe_babe.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz,
Stereo
-> there are no errors, but it stays like this (a.wav is a few seconds)
forever and there is no volume indication "from PC" on the device.
$ arecord -f cd b.wav
Recording WAVE 'b.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo
-> no errors but the file is empty (44 bytes), the device shows active mic
level "to PC"
It doesn't work for input or output but i guess it's near working. The
only error is in dmesg (error -5 ?). Were could i go from here? Any hint
is welcome
Best regards,
Thomas
I was attracted by the small (memory and screen) footprint of JackMix, the Qt
Matrix Mixer for Jack, which makes it very useful on laptops, but needed to be
able to control it via MIDI. This lets us give performances at conferences
when we can't afford to talk the whole ensemble. We play a video along with the
live musicians feeding separate mixes to each performer and to master speakers
from multi-track video being played by the VLC Jack plugin.
Consequently, I've updated it to make the mixing elements respond to MIDI
control commands.
My updated version is here: https://github.com/nickbailey/jackmix
If the original author, Arnold Krille, is reading this, I'd really like to
email you, Arnold. There are one or two things I'd like to change but don't
yet understand the best way to do it!
Here is the NEWS file:
VERSION 0.5.0
-------------
New features this version (added by Nick):
The right-click on the matrix can be a bit fiddly to pop up the
context menu instead of the knob setting spinbox, so the following
shortcuts are now available:
* Toggle element selection with Shift-Mouse1
* Replace selected elements with Ctrl-Shift-Mouse1 in the upper-
left-most selected element
MIDI control of the mixer is now available. You can route signals
from a MIDI control surface to JackMix: it appears as "JackMix" in
the ALSA MIDI tab of QJackControl, for example. Each element now has
an extra context menu entry: "Assign MIDI Parameter". Use should be
self-evident.
Points to note:
* You can't unassign a midi parameter -- it can be set to
0 though (my control surface doesn't have controller 0;
some may I suppose).
* MIDI control parameter numbers are saved in the xml file
generated by File->Save File... menu action, but this means
there are extra XML attributes which might upset older versions
of JackMix. I've not tested this, but it might cause problems
if you aren't aware of the extra functionality.
Hello all,
zita-ajbridge-0.4.0 is now available at the usual place:
<http://kokkinizita.linuxaudio.org/linuxaudio/downloads/index.html>
>From the README:
* The 'JackPortIsTerminal' and 'JackPortIsPhysical'
flags are set on the Jack ports.
* The correct latency value is set on the Jack ports.
This is the latency resulting from buffering and
resampling. It does not include any additional
latency due to processing by the sound card, e.g.
from anti-alias filters. This can be added using
the -I (for a2j) and -O (for j2a) options, in the
same way as for Jack's ALSA backend.
The README also explains how to test this.
Ciao,
--
FA
A world of exhaustive, reliable metadata would be an utopia.
It's also a pipe-dream, founded on self-delusion, nerd hubris
and hysterically inflated market opportunities. (Cory Doctorow)
Hi all,
I just joined the developers list as I've been looking into adding
Jack midi support to one of my favourite sequencers (harmonySEQ) and
need some advice related to threading and shared data. I know these
issues have come up before, specifically I found two related threads
[1][2], but I am still confused as to what would be the best approach.
(I am also new to thread programming in general.)
As this is a sequencer the main data structure is a list of patterns
where each pattern contains a list of notes. Patterns can be
manipulated while being played back. Both the GUI thread and Jack
thread should be able to modify the patterns, e.g. a midi event might
toggle a pattern on/off, the GUI can insert a note into a pattern, or
add or remove a pattern.
I've considered different approaches (separate data for each thread,
various versions of shared data), but I believe all of them make at
least two assumptions: That reading and writing byte-sized data (e.g.
a bool flag) and that updating pointers is atomic. I got a bit
confused reading this thread [2]. Are these assumptions correct?
To be more specific, one of the schemes I came up with followed the
idea of using only one shared data structure which has to be in a
consistent state at all points in time. To ensure this I would have to
be very careful as to how I update the data structure. For example, if
the GUI added or removed a note from a pattern (which might involve a
memory reallocation) it would do so by performing theses changes on a
copy of the current pattern and then replace the original pattern by
updating the pointer to this new version of the pattern. Simple
updates (e.g. turning a pattern on / off) would be performed directly
on the pattern as I consider them atomic. To keep references to
patterns throughout the code I would use some global registry, as I
cannot use pointers for they "expire" (might point to an old version
of the pattern).
Does that make sense? Are there some obvious flaws with that scheme
that I oversaw, are there better ways to go about it? I am really
quite new to this kind of programming issues, I would appreciate any
pointers and advice!
Thanks,
Burkhard
[1] http://linux-audio.4202.n7.nabble.com/Best-practice-for-sharing-complex-dat…
[2] http://linux-audio.4202.n7.nabble.com/Atomic-Operations-td58961.html
Hey everybody,
OpenAV is releasing Sorcer 1.1! Upgraded features such as a compressor and
output level provide better feedback in an all new NTK based UI! Existing
presets are remain unchanged: the compressor is off by default.
Packagers will be happy to know that Sorcer now uses Make, so packaging
should be easier.
Details available on http://openavproductions.com/sorcer
Cheers, -Harry
Hi,
I'm writing a CLI editor for the Matrix-1000. Regarding to the owner's
manual some parameters have 6 bit values, so I gave them a range from 0
to 63, for the 7 bit value I definite a range from 0 to 127. Many values
are described as "7 (Signed)". I consider those values should get a
range from -64 to 0 to +63, IOW I understand it as a two's complement,
but the editor of my Atari ST's Cubase 3.1 doesn't give them a value
from -64 to 0 to +63, instead the GUI's value range is from 0 to 127. I
suspect that the Cubase editor is mistaken, resp. the editor was build
by a "kit" and I suspect there's a limitation, it doesn't know signed
values.
My guess is, that it would be correct to assign a value range from -64
to 0 to +63. Is this correct? Or am I mistaken and the value range given
by Cubase is correct?
Regards,
Ralf
On Thu, 2013-09-12 at 14:22 +0200, Alexandre Ratchov wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 09, 2013 at 04:45:53PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm writing a CLI editor for the Matrix-1000. Regarding to the owner's
> > manual some parameters have 6 bit values, so I gave them a range from 0
> > to 63, for the 7 bit value I definite a range from 0 to 127. Many values
> > are described as "7 (Signed)". I consider those values should get a
> > range from -64 to 0 to +63, IOW I understand it as a two's complement,
> > but the editor of my Atari ST's Cubase 3.1 doesn't give them a value
> > from -64 to 0 to +63, instead the GUI's value range is from 0 to 127.
>
> I don't have a matrix-1000, but there's plenty of midi gears that
> use biased 7-bit integers instead of signed two complement. I mean:
>
> 0 -> min value
> 64 -> neutral value
> 127 -> maximum value
>
> example, a value in the [-0.5:0.5] range would be represented
> with the 7-bit number in 1/128 steps as follows:
>
> 0 -> -64/128
> 1 -> -63/128
> ...
> 64 -> 0
> 65 -> 1/128
> ...
> 127 -> 63/128
>
>
> note that 0.5 cannot be reached with this scheme; so sometimes only
> the range 1..127 of the 7-bit number is used in 1/127 steps.
>
> HTH
Thank you Alexandre,
at the moment it's possible to use -64 to +63 by signed two complement
and it's also possible to continue up to +127, assumed the two
complement should cause audible value "jumps".
I simply will connect the Matrix-1000 and then test what happens.
I found a free Windows editor that does provide -63 to +63 (no 0.5
steps) but since I run Windows in VBox, I don't know if I could get a
MIDI output to take a look at the SysEx data.
Another issue are some bit switches, e.g. for a DCO Waveform enable
bit 0 = pulse, 1 = wave and 2 = noise. For the Windows editor it's
possible to turn on pulse, wave and noise at the same time, while I
suspected that if one is turned on, the others should be turned off.
However, I will test it using the editor I've written, with the Matrix I
own.
I hoped somebody who owns a Matrix too does know, too avoid those tests
when I started writing.
If there should be the need to rewrite what already is written, it
wouldn't cause work, the actual work is to copy all parameters from the
manual and to find a way to make the Matrix's matrix clear for the
command line (without a GUI).
It's just a bash script using amidi, from the fact that I need to copy
all parameters from the manual and need to find a way to make the
Matrix's matrix clear without a GUI, the script is finished, so I easily
can test the behavior, whenever I've got some time to do it ;).
Regards,
Ralf
After more than 10 years of service my first ever Linux system
died yesterday. The original configuration was P4, 0.5G memory,
two IDE HD of 60G each, and it pretty much stayed like that.
Two years ago the power supply blew up and was replaced by an
external one (too big to go inside). Last year the first HD
failed, and yesterday evening the second.
This was the system on which I developed almost everything I
ever released, so it carries lots of memories... Maybe one
of the reasons it decided to go to the eternal processing
fields was that it couldn't really cope with A3. I've mixed
20+ tracks using A2 on that system, but 350MB resident memory
for an empty session was just too much...
The new zita1 will probably be a Fujitsu P510, one of the
reasons being that this is one of the few still having at
least one PCI slot, so I can still use my sound cards. Any
suggestions for alternatives are welcome !
More CPU and memory will in the end make me less frugal, but
I'll resist the tendency :-)
Ciao,
--
FA
A world of exhaustive, reliable metadata would be an utopia.
It's also a pipe-dream, founded on self-delusion, nerd hubris
and hysterically inflated market opportunities. (Cory Doctorow)
Gordon JC Pearce wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 07:04:31PM +0200, Clemens Ladisch wrote:
>>> not to send that too soon otherwise the CZ will misbehave in various
>>> interesting ways. Once all the patch data is send - with breaks for
>>> acks in between - the final 0xf7 is sent to terminate the sysex dump.
>>
>> So the messages used by the CZ1000 in this protocol are not actually
>> MIDI messages.
>
> In what way are they not MIDI messages?
All the messages in the CZ1000 protocol (header, acks, final F7)
together make up just a single MIDI message; the individual messages,
taken separately, are not valid MIDI messages.
>>> According to the USB MIDI spec there is an event packet to send just
>>> single bytes.
>>
>> There are devices that do not support this single-byte packet.
>
> That would be most devices.
>
>>> This isn't implemented in the kernel,
>>
>> It's used for real-time messages.
>
> No, that's CIN 0x5 which only passes a single byte if its upper bit is set.
CIN 0x5 is used only for system common messages, not for system real-
time messages.
>>> With a bit of testing, I've determined that at least the USB
>>> interfaces I have at hand do not support sysex. They will pass some
>>> interestingly "interpreted" version of sysex, which is of course
>>> corrupted and unreadable by the device.
>>
>> In what way corrupted?
>
> It doesn't send complete messages.
The USB MIDI spec does not work on the raw byte level (except when
using CIN 0xf) but on the level of complete MIDI messages. (Running
status isn't used either.)
> This is an inherent flaw in the USB MIDI spec.
Apparently Roland, who wrote the spec, did not think that anybody would
do anything particularly weird.
Regards,
Clemens
Gordon JC Pearce wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 11:34:33AM +0200, Clemens Ladisch wrote:
>> Gordon JC Pearce wrote:
>>> The only exception is if I send something not a multiple of three
>>> bytes but terminate the transfer with 0xf7, it will send
>>> everything including the 0xf7 - but this kills the sysex transfer.
>>
>> _Every_ SysEx message must be terminated with F7.
>
> The CZ1000 expects seven bytes to start the sysex transfer, at which
> point it will reply with a message and wait for an acknowledge. The
> the PC should start to send the patch data, but it's quite important
> not to send that too soon otherwise the CZ will misbehave in various
> interesting ways. Once all the patch data is send - with breaks for
> acks in between - the final 0xf7 is sent to terminate the sysex dump.
So the messages used by the CZ1000 in this protocol are not actually
MIDI messages.
>>> Is it really impossible to just send raw bytes over a USB MIDI cable?
>>
>> It is possible to send MIDI messages over a USB MIDI cable.
>
> According to the USB MIDI spec there is an event packet to send just
> single bytes.
There are devices that do not support this single-byte packet.
> This isn't implemented in the kernel,
It's used for real-time messages.
> it would be incredibly handy for sysex transfers, debugging and the
> like.
>
> Perhaps the answer is just to ditch alsa and poke the USB device with
> libusb?
Or change the driver to always use single-byte packets (modify the first
"if" in snd_usbmidi_transmit_byte).
> With a bit of testing, I've determined that at least the USB
> interfaces I have at hand do not support sysex. They will pass some
> interestingly "interpreted" version of sysex, which is of course
> corrupted and unreadable by the device.
In what way corrupted?
Regards,
Clemens
