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by nickt

What does the Open source community think of Kylix? I am thinking of using it for my projects. I have experience with Borland C++ Builder and I would be able to do much better looking work with it. So far I think the GUI kits on Linux are a bit primitive compared to what I was using on Windows. I could do cool stuff with Kylix very easily. I think Borland C++ Builder was the best development tool ever made for Rapid development work. And since I am a Rapid kind of guy it suited my way of doing things perfectly. FLTK and GTK are not rapid tools, sorry, they just aren't, they are very clumsy for doing rapid prototyping with (but FLTK is better than GTK at this). The only downside is people would need Kylix to compile my programs. It's a huge download and not everyone has cable modems. I am most likely going to take the plunge and head to it. I think Kylix is the best thing to come to Linux yet. I just don't see anyone using it right now. I am not sure why. I have got it and I am going to set it up and see what goes on. It said the open version can be used to make GPL programs with it.

22 years, 1 month

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: [Jackit-devel] Re: [linux-audio-user] JACK 0.71.1 released

by Taybin Rutkin

Sorry. I thought the fltk-config patch was from you. Taybin -------Original Message------- From: Jack O'Quin <joq(a)io.com> Sent: 05/10/03 06:38 PM To: Taybin <taybin(a)earthlink.net> Subject: [linux-audio-dev] Re: [Jackit-devel] Re: [linux-audio-user] JACK 0.71.1 released > > Taybin <taybin(a)earthlink.net> writes: > Grr. Looks like the fltk patch doesn't work as well as it should. > > Jack? Yep. It's broken for me, too (see earlier post). -- Jack O'Quin Austin, Texas, USA >

22 years, 1 month

[linux-audio-dev] JACK 0.71.1 released

by Taybin

JACK 0.71.1 JACK is a low-latency audio server, written primarily for the GNU/Linux operating system. It can connect a number of different applications to an audio device, as well as allowing them to share audio between themselves. Its clients can run in their own processes (ie. as normal applications), or can they can run within the JACK server (ie. as a "plugin"). JACK is different from other audio server efforts in that it has been designed from the ground up to be suitable for professional audio work. This means that it focuses on two key areas: synchronous execution of all clients, and low latency operation. **CHANGES** * fltk macros/detection from bob ham * tmpdir configure-time patch from jesse chappell * socket error handling change (with additional graph sort!) from stephane letz * xrun init patch from gunter geiger Taybin Rutkin

22 years, 1 month

[linux-audio-dev] Fwd: The New Csound LGPL License - At Last Free...

by Kevin Conder

Here's some exciting news... Csound is now Open Source! ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 02:42:51 -0400 From: "Dr. Richard Boulanger" <csound(a)attbi.com> To: "Dr. Richard Boulanger" <rboulanger(a)berklee.edu> Subject: The New Csound LGPL License - At Last Free... Dear Students, Colleagues, Friends, On May 1, 2003 - the Licensing Office of MIT authorized me to notify you that they and Barry Vercoe had decided to change the Csound License and make it "Open Source under the GNU-LGPL." Below is a note that Barry Vercoe asked me to forward you regarding this incredibly wonderful decision. After his note, I have included the email message that I sent to the Csound List accounting the details of the meetings and emails that led to this event. Lastly, I have included the LGPL and FDL licenses so that any and all of you who use Csound and make music with Csound can now understand and appreciate all of your new freedoms! ===== Dear all Each time I have developed a major system for Musical Sound Synthesis I have tried to make the sources freely available to the musical community. With MUSIC 360 in 1968 that meant running to the Post Office every day to mail off a bulky 300 ft reel of 9-track digital tape, but I really did enjoy the many hundreds of pieces this caused during the late 60's and 70's. With my MUSIC -11 for the ubiquitous and less costly PDP-11, I chose to pass the maintenance and distribution task off to a third party. This was easier on me, and led to even more pieces in the community during the late 70's and early 80's. At the time I wrote Csound in 1985 the net had now made it possible for would-be users to simply copy the sources from my MIT site, so I put my time into writing a Makefile that would compile those sources along with the sound analysis programs and the Scot and Cscore utilities. And though this was initially Unix, I worked with others to port it to Apple machines as well. After I was awarded an NSF grant in 1986, it became necessary to add a copyright and permission paragraph to the sources and the accompanying Manual. The spirit of my contribution however remained unchanged, that I wished all who would use it, extend it, and do creative things with it be given ready access with minimal hassle. Today the original wording of the permission no longer conveys that spirit, and the dozens of developers to whom I paid tribute in my Foreword to Rick Boulanger's The Csound Book have felt it a deterrent to making the best extensions they can. So with the graceful consent of MIT's Technology Licensing Office, I am declaring my part of Public Csound to be Open Source, as defined by the LGPL standard. This does not compromise the work of others, nor does it make the whole of Public Csound into Free Software. But it does create a more realistic basis upon which others can build their own brand of Csound extensions, in the spirit of my efforts over the years. I am indebted to John ffitch for having protected me from the enormous task of daily maintenance in recent years. His spirit is even greater than mine, and I trust you will continue to accord him that recognition as you go forward. Sincerely, Barry Vercoe ===== -- kwconder at yahoo dot com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com

22 years, 1 month

[linux-audio-dev] About Kylix, music, Linux, etc.

by Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas

Hi all, I'm not a Pascal fanatic at all. Furthermore, i don't consider myself as a fanatic in any sense. Well, perhaps i spend too much time with computers, and i love them as much as i love music. And i love Pascal too, as much as i love Linux. So, when Delphi landed in Linux incarnated as Kylix, it made me very happy. From an ethic point of view i would prefer Free Pascal, (www.freepascal.org) but Linux is already some kind of market, and there are some companys making money with products running in Linux: Oracle, IBM, etc... Why to blame Borland and not others? You can get Kylix 3 "gratis" (as a beer) from the Borland site. This "gratis" Kylix version has a proprietary license with an unusual mandatory clause: every program you do with it must be GPL licensed, if distributed. Some libraries included (the runtime library and the basic CLX components) are not only free as a beer, but also GPL licensed. This is why we are able to distribute these libraries as rpm and deb packages for people that want to use our programs, but do not want to install the whole compiler and IDE. See http://kylixlibs.sourceforge.net Kylix is based on Qt, this is the basic witget toolkit for every Kylix program. Kylix libraries include a Borland modified Qt library. Also GPL'd, of course. Kylix programs can use a heavily evolved Pascal dialect supporting OOP, and many extensions to the ancient language. Free Pascal also supports OOP and many extensions. Pascal is not dead, as you can see: it is growing, spreading and evolving with enough good health. And you can use the same libraries and components (object code compatible) with the C++ compiler included with Kylix 3. I've made a unit in Pascal (plain good old Pascal) to use ALSA with Kylix and Free Pascal programs. It is a bit outdated now, but i promise you an update soon to be synchronized with latest ALSA library releases. In my site you will find some examples in plain old Pascal, and some programs (for Kylix only) using OOP for several MIDI applications. I'm not using Sourceforge yet, because my project is very new and nobody has asked me to share a repository, but my intention is to do so as soon as needed. We will be not alone there. If you browse sf.net now, you will find 1076 projects using Delphi/Kylix, and some more using Pascal and Object Pascal. And many thanks to Dave Phillips. He included my ALSA MIDI metronome (one of the sample applications) in his site "Sound & MIDI Software For Linux", although he don't remember what this program is ;-) Regards, Pedro -- ALSA Library Bindings for Pascal http://alsapas.alturl.com

22 years, 1 month

[linux-audio-dev] final scratch + native instruments

by Paul Davis

http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2003/Final-Scratch-11-Traktor.html i poked around the website(s) but couldn't figure out if this means that TraktorFS runs on linux. someone with more time might be inclined to find out ... --p

22 years, 1 month

[linux-audio-dev] Re: Kylix

by Robert Jonsson

Hi, >> Qt can also be developed using a WYSIWYG style editor called >> QtDesigner. If you go ahead and compile QtDesigner with the KDE >> classes, you can use the KDE widgets for that style of editing as well. >> > >Qt designer looks cool but it does not have a compiler mode to compile >and debug from it. It is not really a true IDE or RAD tool for >development. It is very very close to Kylix though if they just had the >ability to compile and develop within it. No QT designer is just the "wizard", it needs to be accompanied by an integrating environment. > >> Christian is right - Qt beats MFC hands down. MFC was a nightmare for >MFC is the biggest pile of crap I ever used. I hate it 1000 times more >than I hate GTK. At least GTK is free, so I won't rag on it. I just did >not like the way GTK works at all. But MFC was just pure bullshit. :-) heart warming > >When I mean RAD tools, you really had to use Borland C++ Builder. >Imagine the ease of Visual Basic but with C++. That is how it was like. > >If you ever used Visual Studio .NET it's alot like the C# Windows forms >stuff. Drag, drop, point, click, write code, compile, run, whoopee! Next >part. > >I love GCC but all the kits are just too painful for using it for GUIs >so far. Way too hard and awkward to use. I like the ease of Visual Basic >but with the power of C++. Kylix/Borland Builder does this so nicely >you'll flip when you use it and find out how powerful it is. And it >isn't a mickey mouse solution either, it is really a very powerful API >attached to it to do really advanced GUI work in C++ or Delphi. Yeah, this has been the culprit for me many times also. I just don't have the time/stamina/whatever to do something other than GUI-less tools without a good IDE. Professionally I write a little in Java right now, and I think the tools available there are lightyears ahead of the current stock of tools for C/C++ (especially compared to the ones available in Linux). Java IDE's like Idea(costs money) is just sooooooo complete. As for Kylix, I did try it once but for some reason never got around to do anything serious with it, I think it's because it is something of an outsider in the opensource community...dunno.. I've done my fair share (more than that probably) of searching for good development tools under Linux. As for full IDE's there are currently three IDE's that I think deserves mentioning. http://anjuta.org http://eclipse.org http://kdevelop.org Where I have used anjuta for a C based project and was very pleased with it for a while, but it was still to buggy, so I stopped... Eclipse is IBM's javabased super-all-in-one, now opensourced master-meta IDE that will(and does) support everything and the kitchen sink ranging from atoms to atombombs. The C++ part of Eclipse is rather primitive as of yet though, and it doesn't support any GUI tools. The java part is really cool though and I've used it several times for smaller projects. My personal favourite of the bunch is Kdevelop. I've done a C++ projekt in Kdevelop a few years ago (no gui) and it worked rather well. A new version of kdevelop is under heavy development, 3.0, this release seems, on the drawing board to be extremely well equipped for C++ projects, especially if you are doing gui-based development with QT or KDE toolkits. I haven't tried it myself, but kdevelop IS supposed to integrate with QT designer, I'm not sure how much is already finished though... I've tried the alpha releases with varying degrees of success ;) My testbench is to try and import MusE's source code and try to browse through it and get it to compile from inside the IDE. Mostly works now :) > >What I am wondering about is the License to Kylix. Where is it? I am >guessing that is why it has not been adopted more by OSS people. You are talking about the 'free' version of Kylix right? I think all libraries that you make with that are GPL, correct me if I'm wrong. And the founding reason for that is probably because Kylix's GUI-toolkit is based on QT (!), which in it's free form is GPL. As for not so much adoption in the OSS community, I think it's simply because it isn't true OSS by itself. But I DO think it's a great tool, and Kylix DOES support C++ right? If it fits your bill, go ahead and use it! If you provide binaries for your projekt then people only need the runtime-environment and, though big, isn't as big as the whole of Kylix :) Personally I'm waiting for Kdevelops latest generation :-). Probably forever ;)... Regards,

22 years, 1 month

[linux-audio-dev] FW: Academic Discounts on Microsoft, Adobe, & Macromedia

by Sherawien

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22 years, 1 month

[linux-audio-dev] Re: final scratch + native instruments

by Martin Buechler

> http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2003/Final-Scratch-11-Traktor.html > > i poked around the website(s) but couldn't figure out if this means > that TraktorFS runs on linux. someone with more time might be inclined > to find out ... Hi, All you might want to know about Traktor FS, may be found at http://www.nativeinstruments.de/index.php?id=traktorfs_us Where they clearly state: --8<----------- Final Scratch on Linux and Mac OS X: Powered by TRAKTOR FS -->8---------- BTW, I live next door to Native Instruments' office, and I heard and saw that Traktor DJ stuff working on their release party in our favourite low-tech cocktail bar, quite impressive, but those people (~30) of NI actually forgot to pay their bill for about 4 weeks ;) Alas, don't know what OS it was, but if something remains unclear, I might jump in my pants and go ask them. Martin

22 years, 1 month

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Echo Darla/Gina/Layla/... on Linux

by Moran, Craig M (BAH)

I would dearly love to see some Layla20 ALSA drivers for Linux. I have been waiting for 3 years! I have no kernel hacking experience nor driver writing experience. Craig M. Moran Booz|Allen|Hamilton Advanced Technology Team 301-757-0616

22 years, 1 month

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