On 11 May 2003 19:15:38 -0400 nickt <nicktsocanos(a)charter.net> wrote: Keep that to yourself, I allways loved pascal, specially the OO extensions, which are much nicer than the C++ ones to me, in a lot of aspects. But as we live in a C world, I understand that C++ is the only thing I can program for nowadays. Why do you really want a "RAD" tool so badly? I worked with delphi and C++ builder for years, and even when they are cool for "prototyping" I am in no way allowing to handle the code, specially for a big app, it gets all enormously complicated, with 3482749 widgets inside a window. Also it's hard to make subcomponents (widgets made out of other widgets) with them for reusal, or just your own extensions to existing ones. Also, adding callbacks by hand is much easier in Qt or Gtk/gtkmm than in MFC, and both have good enough documentation for properties. You can try out glade/qt designer for prototyping and generating the basic code, and then shape up your stuff, but usually RAD code ends up being difficult to mantain in the long term. Nowadays i'd try to go only with gtk/qt or wxwindows/gtk, anything else will give your app a rare look, and will not fit well with the rest of the Os. For such reason you can see how tk/xaw/motif are becoming rapidly unpopular. cheers Juan Linietsky