1 Dec
2008
1 Dec
'08
11:21 a.m.
torbenh(a)gmx.de wrote:
hmm. i haven't looked into it, but my gut feeling is that upnp merely
adds a network transparency layer to each known exploit in the world...
but i may have grown old and grumpy, so ignore me.
i know :) what i meant is: people who want to use netjack are advanced
users who run their own linux studio. for them, setting up a port
forward is no dark magic. so we don't have to compete with skype in
terms of one-click-installability. in all other aspects, we are of
course going to have them for breakfast :)
i'd rather have this additional barrier of manual setup than to have to
activate upnp in my studio network. additionally, i might also want to
get additional firewall rules in place to permit only specific source
ips (which should be trivial to automate if the connection information
is available via jabber).
do you think that a properly setup jabberd that requires registration
would fall under this exclusion rule?
i'm running a torrent mirror at a hoster that explicitly forbids file
sharing, but when i explained to them the nature and licensing of the
material provided (it's not warez or moviez) and gave them figures of
bandwidth usage, they gave me the thumbs up.
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On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 02:06:30PM +0100, Joern
Nettingsmeier wrote:
wow. now that is totally amazing technology. i wonder who rewrites the
html each time a new user connects? probably outsourced to india...
>> if you have a solution for this, irc
would become my choice i guess ;D
hmmm... i have a solution now: http://checkip.dyndns.org/ the way i see
it, if you want to netjack between two natted hosts,
there's no easy way around port forwardings on both ends. which is fine
i dont want to get around port forwarding.
there is still the possibility to use UPNP to open the
port. anybody knows a library or code fragment for this ?
it would at least provide for randomized port numbers.
(If your router supports it... mine does, but i deactivated it ;S imho, since we
are not competing with skype here, are we?
hmmm... i guess skype is not competing with us ;)
we are providing N channel support, midi transport,
low-latency lan operation. A musical codec...
transport synchronisation. hehe :)
i need to research the possibility for cloud DSPing :D
ie rent your lexicon to other studios... lol.
or record to 16 track 2 inch at some remote location that still has the
tape wizards to maintain one :-D
(and yes, the telcoms could be at yet another facility - but i'm getting
carried away...)
for the simple
case (both end points have real ip addresses), some
simple directory script (such as the icecast streamer list) might
suffice, but the cool thing about the jabber idea is you can ssl it and
maybe also use it to agree on a login procedure without having to post
your ip (and hence, your open netjack port) for all the world to see.
yes. this is my intent.
now with the possibility to detect own IP i can decide between irc or
jabber. i dont even need to modify jabberd.
And irc would still require cloaks to hide ips. so i guess i will go
with jabber.
jabber already has buddy list etc implemented, and i dont need to think
about this.
Paul seems to also like the idea. the problem might only be, that
dreamhost prohibits irc like services. But this is just a presence
service.