28 Jun
2014
28 Jun
'14
1:50 p.m.
Am 25.06.2014 23:10, schrieb Fons Adriaensen:
I remember the discussion about the Hadarmard matrix function in 2010 at
faust devel list. This one was as well about the zita-rev1
implementation in faust.
As well you seems to be pleased with the faust zita-rev1 implementation
at this time and helped Julius with some hints.
Al the discussion here imply exactly the opposite, . .
As pointed out earlier, I always try to don't act in this way, that's
why I have contacted you several times before we start to use
zita-convolver and zita-resampler in our project, I've reported the
problems we've had to you, and ask for advice and permission to
implement it at is best.
There is no way for me to see that you are un-pleased with the faust
implementation of zita-rev1, nor that you wouldn’t see any
implementation of it in other projects.
What the hell do you expect when you tell here we do
"cherry-picking without respect for the original author's intentions and
in fact subverting those"
As, well, cherry-picking, we didn't only pick those, we give them also
back in form of contributions to the source code of faust, so, please,
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 08:02:00PM +0200, hermann
meyer wrote:
Because I try to do the Open Source Community a pleasure and wont be the
devils advocate.
You say that a part of my work leads you to avoid to release OpenSource
(GPL'd), that is a thing which I ever tried to avoid. It hurts me to
hear that I may be fallen therewith.
and I must say, it hurts me.
I see no
reason why it should hurt you, or anyone. You may agree with
my opinions or not, but that's an entirely different matter.
Truly, you
have made a great contribution to the Open Source World
with your (excellent) work, but, your habit to restrict the use of
your source isn't nice anymore.
habit ? As far as I know there is currently
one (1) application
released under more restrictive conditions. And yes, I have hinted
that I am holding back some other things and distributing then only
to selected users. Since I'm under no obligation to release anything
at all I don't see how that could be held against me.
We use here, in this special case,
exactly the faust source, which you have work out together with
Julius Smith,
Not at all. Julius has taken the zita-rev1 source and recoded part
of it into Faust. I was not involved at all. and which is
distributed under the GPL within the faust distribution.
Indeed. So you are
entitled to use it - no problem with that.
And then you turn it into a toy for musicians and make it look like a
1950s piece of vintage gear. And call that zita-rev while IT IS NOT
zita-rev, by far.
I, didn't call anything here, as I have stated out before. It is, the
faust implementation, which is implement in faust as zita-rev1. Because
we use it as it is, we use the name of the implementation as it is. But,
the "and make it look like a 1950s piece of vintage gear", I take as a
compliment, because that is indeed what we will reach. :-)
I understand, you didn't like it, but, that is a matter of taste. I
didn't like how zita-rev1 looks in your original version, that the way
it is, different people, different taste.
Isn't that
what Open Source is about?
If open source is about sharing your work and knowledge
I'm all for it.
If it just means a license for cherry-picking without respect for the
original author's intentions and in fact subverting those, then I have
my doubts.
Creativity is not just the ability to copy.
Thanks for this tip.
by
hermann