On 11/15/2014 05:55 AM, David Robillard wrote:
On 2014-10-16 11:42, Phil CM wrote:
Is there a way to retrieve this info (and others,
ideally) from the
host, thus removing the need for a "midi channel" control port?
It would be simple for the host to send a message describing this or
whatever other information, but I don't really see the point.
qtractor ensures that the plugin only receives MIDI messages that are
"stamped" with the proper MIDI track assigned channel.
otoh. i guess the so called "MIDI channels control port" may only make
sense to stand-alone cases or for plugin instances that may act like so
(eg. when using jalv).
If the host is doing specific channel filtering and
such anyway, what's
won by telling the plugin about it?
Just play all channels, i.e. ignore the channel entirely (omni).
Also, is there a way to tie the
"volume" controller of the host (in
Qtractor's case, the volume fader of the mixer strip) to one "volume"
control port of the plugin, thus removing the need for the "control
mode" control port ?
You can designate a port as volume in the metadata, but AFAIK no hosts
actually do anything with such information. Particularly since...
... the fader in a DAW typically does its own thing with the signal at
that point, and wouldn't be mapped to a plugin volume anyway. Since
there can be many plugins in a strip, this doesn't really make sense.
It sounds like your plugins are post-fader, which is not what you want,
but I don't know Qtractor.
the faders in qtractor MIDI tracks/buses strips are indeed special MIDI
controls. eg. for MIDI tracks the volume fader/slider is tied to MIDI
CC#7 (GM channel volume). these MIDI channel messages are indeed sent
through the MIDI plugin chain. nb. that in qtractor you can have more
than just one MIDI intrument plugin inserted in a MIDI track/bus.
in this MIDI control model, *it is* the plugin's resposability to comply
with the GM spec (or not), either by implementation or its own
configuration option. like it has been for all external or stand-alone
MIDI equipment be that soft- or hard-synths, etc.
remember, plugins aren't the only form of MIDI instruments thatat exist,
and qtractor still is a *sequencer* designed to drive all other forms.
also, in this sense, all MIDI strip plugin chains are regarded as if
it's "pre-fader" if one looks at it as in the audio signal sense, but
let me refrain that it is dealing with MIDI control flow and *not* with
the audio one, so calling it pre- or post-fader isn't actually
applicable to MIDI tracks/buses.
hth.
cheers
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