14 May
2003
14 May
'03
7:32 p.m.
On 11 May 2003 19:15:38 -0400
nickt <nicktsocanos(a)charter.net> wrote:
after all that getting everyone worked up about it, it
doesn't work for
me. It doesn't support Red Hat 8.0. After a huge amount of hacking I got
it to run and compile, but it won't link anything.
Delphi runs fine, but Pascal sucks, and I am not using it.
Keep that to yourself, I allways loved pascal, specially the OO extensions,
which are much nicer than the C++ ones to me, in a lot of aspects. But
as we live in a C world, I understand that C++ is the only thing I can
program for nowadays.
So I will go with the Linux spirit and work with
Qt/Designer. It looks
really smartly done and I'm sure I can get the hang of it in a while.
Why do you really want a "RAD" tool so badly? I worked with
delphi and C++ builder for years, and even when they
are cool for "prototyping" I am in no way allowing to handle
the code, specially for a big app, it gets all enormously complicated,
with 3482749 widgets inside a window. Also it's hard to make
subcomponents (widgets made out of other widgets)
with them for reusal, or just your own extensions to existing ones.
Also, adding callbacks by hand is much easier in Qt or Gtk/gtkmm
than in MFC, and both have good enough documentation for properties.
You can try out glade/qt designer for prototyping and generating
the basic code, and then shape up your stuff, but usually
RAD code ends up being difficult to mantain in the long term.
I know that GNOME started because Qt used to have a
proprietary license
right? I don't really care which desktop (Red Hat all looks the same
anyways) I use but GTK was the most awkward GUI toolkit I ever used.
FLTK is really pretty good and I hope 2.0 will address some issues with
it (like more tutorials on doing graphics/drawing with it).
Nowadays i'd try to go only with gtk/qt or wxwindows/gtk, anything else will give
your
app a rare look, and will not fit well with the rest of the Os. For such reason
you can see how tk/xaw/motif are becoming rapidly unpopular.
cheers
Juan Linietsky