8 Jun
2010
8 Jun
'10
5:07 p.m.
sorry...
no 'reply' butttons (thunderbird) or any other link (list archives) i
tried has worked so far, so i give up.
i don't have the patience for these things...
at least i tried..
i just wanted to let you know that there's something new out there, that
some of you might find interesting, that's all...
if there's any questions, ask in our discussion group instead
(http://groups.google.com/group/axonlib), or email me directly...
or in the discussion thread over at kvr-audio
(http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=288888)
- ccernn
8 Jun
8 Jun
5:15 p.m.
New subject: axonlib (last one)
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 11:11 AM, ccernn <cern.th.skei(a)gmail.com> wrote:
sorry...
no 'reply' butttons (thunderbird) or any other link (list archives) i tried
has worked so far, so i give up.
i guess this is the modern world ... where something that us
old-timers take for granted (replying to a mailing list) actually
appears so difficult to someone who is neverthless a technically
minded person that they give up.
ccernn: i have no idea how you are reading these messages (you have a
gmail.com account, but apparently are not using gmail in a web-browser
to actually read mail), but it is just a *little* unfathomable that
you'd be using a method that doesn't allow you to reply to them. list
archives are archives ... they have never provided any method of
replying to messages.
oh well ... another reason to feel sad about web forums :)
6:39 p.m.
New subject: axonlib (last one)
Excerpts from ccernn's message of 2010-06-08 17:11:11 +0200:
sorry...
no 'reply' butttons (thunderbird) or any other link (list archives) i
tried has worked so far, so i give up.
i don't have the patience for these things...
at least i tried..
i just wanted to let you know that there's something new out there, that
some of you might find interesting, that's all...
if there's any questions, ask in our discussion group instead
(http://groups.google.com/group/axonlib), or email me directly...
or in the discussion thread over at kvr-audio
(http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=288888)
- ccernn
Thunderbird should allow this, but I think I read that it's somewhat
awkward or at least not straight forward. However, it's popular, so
someone should know how to do it.
I did a quick search for it, and it suggests that it really is a poor
mail client, but the search suggests that there is an extension that
helps.
http://blog.vorlons.info/archives/2008/11/17/234/
--
Regards,
Philipp
--
"Wir stehen selbst enttäuscht und sehn betroffen / Den Vorhang zu und alle Fragen
offen." Bertolt Brecht, Der gute Mensch von Sezuan
7:34 p.m.
New subject: mailing-list problems - was: axonlib (last one)
On 06/08/2010 05:11 PM, ccernn wrote:
sorry...
no 'reply' butttons (thunderbird)
Thunderbird 3.0.4 has reply-to-all and reply-to-list buttons.
They are displayed by default. Maybe you've 'customized' them away?
or any other link (list archives)
The top-most (aka first) link in the email-archive is a 'mailto:' URL
which opens a window to send a reply to the list. It does not cite the
message but it includes the in-reply-to header.
eg.
http://lists.linuxaudio.org/pipermail/linux-audio-dev/2010-June/027951.html
i tried has worked so far, so i give up.
i don't have the patience for these things...
at least i tried..
There are a few thousand subscribers to this list which have no problem
at using the "reply to all" or "reply to list" button or shortcut.
Sorry to hear that you're running into problems. I wonder why our
list-admin (CCed) has not yet replied to this - probably because the
Subject is misleading - If you're interested why the default reply does
not go to the list, read: http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html
It looks like you just claimed the: "You're the 10000th subscriber and
win the reply-to-list problem" award (-:
i just wanted to let you know that there's
something new out there, that
some of you might find interesting, that's all...
Thanks for sharing.
Once you're over the initial email-list frustration, you may want to
announce it on http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-announce
Doing so should be easier: LAA is a one-way email-list: no replies and
it would help to gain publicity for axonlib. There's quite a few
news-feeds, packagers and software indexers/archivers watching there.
if there's any questions, ask in our discussion
group instead
(http://groups.google.com/group/axonlib), or email me directly...
or in the discussion thread over at kvr-audio
(http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=288888)
- ccernn
Cheers!
robin
PS. there are various 3rd Party services that allow to post to this
email-list using just a web-browser. Some even look like a web-forum:
eg. http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.linux.audio.devel
8:25 p.m.
New subject: mailing-list problems - was: axonlib (last one)
Robin Gareus <robin@...> writes:
:-) me thinking that "i can't figure this out, and i can't find any docs or
info, so i want to do something else instead of being frustrated"...
yes, thought about that too, but didn't know what was acceptable
('netiquette')
cc'ing these two places...
will do the next time i have something new/major to announce.
yeah, let's see now, if gmane is working better for me
and thanx (to all) for trying to sort this out..
sorry to fill up your mailing lists with this crap...
not on purpose..
- ccernn
On 06/08/2010 05:11 PM, ccernn wrote:
hmmm, i have a reply, and a reply-to-all, but no reply-to-list, and i've done no
customization or setup changes..
i got a few emils just after the announcement, and replied to them, thinking
they would pop up in the list, like i've seen the threads when browsing the
archives from http://lalists.stanford.edu/lad/
but they didn't arrive...
then i tried all reply links in the postings when reading the list archive...
they were mailto: links, so thunderbird popped up. but, some way or another,
thunderbird messes up the mailto: adresses, multiple @@'s in there, with ' and
other weird charachers...
might be my thunderbird setup that is f**ked???
sorry...
no 'reply' butttons (thunderbird)
Thunderbird 3.0.4 has reply-to-all and reply-to-list buttons.
They are displayed by default. Maybe you've 'customized' them away? or any other link (list archives)
The top-most (aka first) link in the email-archive is a 'mailto:' URL
which opens a window to send a reply to the list. It does not cite the
message but it includes the in-reply-to header.
eg.
http://lists.linuxaudio.org/pipermail/linux-audio-dev/2010-June/027951.html
i tried has worked so far, so i give up.
i don't have the patience for these things...
at least i tried..
There are a few thousand subscribers to this list which have no problem
at using the "reply to all" or "reply to list" button or shortcut.
Sorry to hear that you're running into problems. I wonder why our
list-admin (CCed) has not yet replied to this - probably because the
Subject is misleading - If you're interested why the default reply does
not go to the list, read: http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html
It looks like you just claimed the: "You're the 10000th subscriber and
win the reply-to-list problem" award i just wanted to let you know that there's
something new out there, that
some of you might find interesting, that's all...
Thanks for sharing.
Once you're over the initial email-list frustration, you may want to
announce it on http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-announce
Doing so should be easier: LAA is a one-way email-list: no replies and
it would help to gain publicity for axonlib. There's quite a few
news-feeds, packagers and software indexers/archivers watching there. if there's any questions, ask in our
discussion group instead
(http://groups.google.com/group/axonlib), or email me directly...
or in the discussion thread over at kvr-audio
(http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=288888)
- ccernn
Cheers!
robin
PS. there are various 3rd Party services that allow to post to this
email-list using just a web-browser. Some even look like a web-forum:
eg. http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.linux.audio.devel
9:07 p.m.
New subject: mailing-list problems - was: axonlib (last one)
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 7:21 PM, ccernn <cern.th.skei(a)gmail.com> wrote:
hmmm, i have a reply, and a reply-to-all, but no
reply-to-list
Reply-to-all will work, then.
Some people get cross if you reply-to-all to one of their list
messages, because that means they may get two copies of your reply --
one to them directly and one via the list. That does depend on their
mailer or mail server though, because the two have identical message
IDs and so can be handled correctly if their client is up to it. (I'm
using reply-to-all now, so you'll soon find out if your client copes.
If you're using gmail, I think it will, and you will get only a single
copy of this.)
So: reply-to-list is better if you have it, but if you don't, use reply-to-all.
Chris
9:55 p.m.
New subject: mailing-list problems - was: axonlib (last one)
On 06/08/2010 09:07 PM, Chris Cannam wrote:
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 7:21 PM, ccernn
<cern.th.skei(a)gmail.com> wrote:
It also depends on the settings you choose when subscribing to the list.
You can change them by visiting
http://lists.linuxaudio.org/options/linux-audio-dev
or follow the link at the end of each list-email and use the
"unsubscribe or edit options" button there.
At the bottom of there's an option:
-=-=-=-=-
Avoid duplicate copies of messages?
When you are listed explicitly in the To: or Cc: headers of a list
message, you can opt to not receive another copy from the mailing list.
Select Yes to avoid receiving copies from the mailing list; select No to
receive copies.
-=-=-=-=-
hmmm, i have a reply, and a reply-to-all, but no
reply-to-list
Reply-to-all will work, then.
Some people get cross if you reply-to-all to one of their list
messages, because that means they may get two copies of your reply --
one to them directly and one via the list. That does depend on their
mailer or mail server though, because the two have identical message
IDs and so can be handled correctly if their client is up to it. (I'm
using reply-to-all now, so you'll soon find out if your client copes.
If you're using gmail, I think it will, and you will get only a single
copy of this.)
So: reply-to-list is better if you have it, but if you don't, use reply-to-all.
Chris
mmh "better" in what way?
I'm certainly not the only one with a setup where emails from the list
are moved directly into a dedicated folder which I read at convenience.
Whereas emails to me end up in the INBOX which I read more frequently.
I tend to use the 'reply-to-list' and 'reply-to-all' correspondingly:
"important replies" to-all; else to-list only.
2c,
robin
10:03 p.m.
New subject: mailing-list problems - was: axonlib (last one)
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 8:55 PM, Robin Gareus <robin(a)gareus.org> wrote:
On 06/08/2010 09:07 PM, Chris Cannam wrote:
"better" in that I have seen complaints from people here before about
getting duplicate copies from reply-to-all. Using reply-to-list
presumably avoids that.
I wouldn't really know, I don't have reply-to-list either and don't
greatly care. Thought it might cut down some potential objections
though.
Chris
So: reply-to-list is better if you have it, but
if you don't, use reply-to-all.
mmh "better" in what way?
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