26 Feb
2003
26 Feb
'03
5:52 a.m.
Hallo,
with the LAD meeting getting closer, I'm getting a bit curious about,
what the plans are for the open "Linux Sound Night" on 15.3.? Will we
hear some of you guys perform and Paul records it?
ciao
--
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__
26 Feb
26 Feb
6:30 a.m.
Frank Barknecht writes:
Hallo,
with the LAD meeting getting closer, I'm getting a bit curious about,
what the plans are for the open "Linux Sound Night" on 15.3.? Will we
hear some of you guys perform and Paul records it?
And will there be a Ladies' Programme, as at the AES conventions ? ;-)
--
FA
6:45 a.m.
Oh.
I'd love to have a jazzy jam-session or, er, well listen to you guys.
I would bring in my piano.
frank, Matthias, joern: I'll mail you later about we *might* (slight chance) get a
streaming server. And - sorry - I'm so late.
greetings, tobias.
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 10:44:37AM +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo,
with the LAD meeting getting closer, I'm getting a bit curious about,
what the plans are for the open "Linux Sound Night" on 15.3.? Will we
hear some of you guys perform and Paul records it?
ciao
--
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__
9:11 a.m.
Tobias Ulbricht wrote:
Oh.
I'd love to have a jazzy jam-session or, er, well listen to you guys.
I would bring in my piano.
Sounds like a nice idea. Maybe i can bring a bass guitar although it is
not my "weapon of choice".
This depends on space left in the transport vehicle of whoevers gives me
a lift. Unfortunately i don't have a car myself.
maybe anyone could contribute some kind of drums/percussion? do we have
PA? If not, and if someone is willing to pick me up with a van or other
big vehicle, i could aswell bring mine.
Maybe we should add a section in the wikki for this issues.
Lukas
10:11 a.m.
Hi,
Lukas Degener schrieb:
Tobias Ulbricht wrote:
I can play the saxophone, but I won't take it with me. Maybe the ZKM has a
midi wind controller? Alternativly I can play the midi faderbox ;) with Pd
on a laptop. I'm a decent drummer with Pd, but only 4/4 beats please.
But I tend to do minimal technoid house normally (see the oggs on
footils.org)
I'd love to have a jazzy jam-session or, er,
well listen to you guys.
I would bring in my piano.
Sounds like a nice idea. Maybe i can bring a bass guitar although it is
not my "weapon of choice".
This depends on space left in the transport vehicle of whoevers gives me
a lift. Unfortunately i don't have a car myself.
maybe anyone could contribute some kind of drums/percussion? do we have
PA? If not, and if someone is willing to pick me up with a van or other
big vehicle, i could aswell bring mine. Maybe we should add a section in the wikki for this
issues.
Feel free to do so ;)
ciao
--
Frank Barknecht
10:30 a.m.
Greetings:
If a guitar is available I might be able to play it... ;)
Best regards,
== Dave Phillips
The Book Of Linux Music & Sound at http://www.nostarch.com/lms.htm
The Linux Soundapps Site at http://linux-sound.org
Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hi,
Lukas Degener schrieb:
Tobias Ulbricht wrote:
I can play the saxophone, but I won't take it with me. Maybe the ZKM has a
midi wind controller? Alternativly I can play the midi faderbox ;) with Pd
on a laptop. I'm a decent drummer with Pd, but only 4/4 beats please.
But I tend to do minimal technoid house normally (see the oggs on
footils.org)
I'd love to have a jazzy jam-session or, er,
well listen to you guys.
I would bring in my piano.
Sounds like a nice idea. Maybe i can bring a bass guitar although it is
not my "weapon of choice".
This depends on space left in the transport vehicle of whoevers gives me
a lift. Unfortunately i don't have a car myself.
maybe anyone could contribute some kind of drums/percussion? do we have
PA? If not, and if someone is willing to pick me up with a van or other
big vehicle, i could aswell bring mine. Maybe we should add a section in the wikki for
this issues.
Feel free to do so ;)
ciao
--
Frank Barknecht 
10:41 a.m.
if anyone has a Hang drum available, i can tap out some pretty
patterns :)
oh wait, i'm the engineer, right?
--p
11:04 a.m.
wow linux is really coming along.. ;p
julian oliver
On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 09:48:35 -0500
Dave Phillips <dlphilp(a)bright.net> wrote:
//Paul Davis wrote:
//
//> if anyone has a Hang drum available, i can tap out some pretty patterns :)
//
//I've been listening to some water drumming by African rainforest
//dwellers. All we need is a sufficiently large tub, enough liquid, and
//we're all set... ;)
//
//== dp
//
//
11:24 a.m.
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 09:48:35 -0500, Dave Phillips wrote:
Paul Davis wrote:
Now that sounds like fun :) If I have enough space I will pack some
acoustic noisemaking toys.
- Steve
if anyone has a Hang drum available, i can tap
out some pretty patterns :)
I've been listening to some water drumming by African rainforest
dwellers. All we need is a sufficiently large tub, enough liquid, and
we're all set... ;)
11:17 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-dev] LAD meeting - LinuxSoundNight
Hi,
Lukas Degener schrieb:
Maybe we should add a section in the wikki for this
issues.
Done.
See http://footils.org/cgi-bin/cms/pydiddy/LinuxSoundNight
ciao
--
Frank Barknecht
11:51 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-dev] LAD meeting - LinuxSoundNight
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 04:09:24PM +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hi,
Lukas Degener schrieb:
I can't come :(
Who's going to record it and put up .oggs?
--
Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com
Maybe we should add a section in the wikki for
this issues.
Done.
See http://footils.org/cgi-bin/cms/pydiddy/LinuxSoundNight 
1:28 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-dev] LAD meeting - LinuxSoundNight
Hi list,
pw_lists(a)slinkp.com wrote:
[..]
I can't come :(
Who's going to record it and put up .oggs?
_IF_ :-) we do some kind of live music, I hope we'll also manage to
record it somehow, and encode/provide that later. I'm _very_ curious
right now, though, what kind of music will evolve out of this :-).
Frank
Maybe we should add a section in the wikki for this
issues.
Done.
See http://footils.org/cgi-bin/cms/pydiddy/LinuxSoundNight
3:44 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-dev] LAD meeting - LinuxSoundNight
Hi,
Frank Neumann schrieb:
_IF_ :-) we do some kind of live music, I hope
we'll also manage to
record it somehow, and encode/provide that later. I'm _very_ curious
right now, though, what kind of music will evolve out of this :-).
I think, it would be so much fun to record something. I has been years
since I have played with other 'musicians' (yes, that's true) I stopped
playing in bands, when I was a big follower of 'Grunge' music. The older
ones here will remember that term. I saw Nirvana before you saw Nirvana ;)
The band that is.
I'll tell you why I stopped then.
As a saxophone player it was hard to get into a hardcore band. Then I
decided: "Frank, what you're missing is distortion and wahwah." I went into
a guitar shop where I bought distortion and wahwah, you know, those little
boxes you can step hard on. I had met two cool guys, a drummer and a
bassist, who were doing an instrumental Space-Rock-Dub-Speed-Metal kind of
music like I was quite into those days. A bit like Blind Idiot God, if
someone still knows this strange american trio.
Those friends of mine even had a room to rehearse. It had high humidity,
but otherwise was quite ok. But they didn't have a guitarist that's why I
saw my big chance coming. Yes, I was gonna be famous. I had distortion and
wahwah. Okay, I had short hair, they had hair to the *ss, but we didn't
care.
So one day, I went to rehearse with them. It was very unformal like "let's
jam a bit, have some fun." So I put on my saxophone, plugged the mike into
the distortion, the distortion into the wahwah or I plugged them the other
way around, don't remember.
Then I blew my heart out.
But there was not distrotion, and there was no wahwah. In fact, there
wasn't even a saxophone, there only was feedback, uncontrollable feedback.
I couldn't really play anything: either I couldn't be heard at all or I
could only produce scccrrreeeettchheeeescreetch.
A year later, those guys made a record, but I don't remember its name. And
I started to get into computers.
Regards,
--
Frank Barknecht
4:55 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-dev] LAD meeting - LinuxSoundNight
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 08:35:58PM +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote:
So one day, I went to rehearse with them. It was very
unformal like "let's
jam a bit, have some fun." So I put on my saxophone, plugged the mike into
the distortion, the distortion into the wahwah or I plugged them the other
way around, don't remember.
Then I blew my heart out.
But there was not distrotion, and there was no wahwah. In fact, there
wasn't even a saxophone, there only was feedback, uncontrollable feedback.
Guitar effects on a microphone is very hard to manage without uncontrollable
feedback. But I saw it done - on a saxophone yet! - by a trio called
Spongehead (guitar/bass, sax, and drums). The sax player used wah, echo,
and an octave divider (which on a tenor or bari gave him some very
nice deep notes, allowing the sax to function as the bass player on
some songs!). I don't remember if he ever used distortion.
He played through a big guitar amp, i think.
Basically you want to:
1) use a very directional mic that mounts on the sax itself -
there are some made for this purpose. I don't know what kind of
pickup the Spongehead guy used, but it seemed to have a cable
coming from near the mouthpiece???
2) use as little distortion as possible to get the effect you want.
considering how "fuzzy" a saxophone can already sound, i'm not
sure there's much point in using a fuzz on it!
But it would be fun to try other effects like chorus, phase,
flange, tremolo ...
3) don't stand right in front of your amp :)
--
Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com
10:08 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-dev] LAD meeting - LinuxSoundNight
Guitar effects on a microphone is very hard to manage without uncontrollable
feedback. But I saw it done - on a saxophone yet! - by a trio called
Spongehead (guitar/bass, sax, and drums). The sax player used wah, echo,
and an octave divider (which on a tenor or bari gave him some very
nice deep notes, allowing the sax to function as the bass player on
some songs!). I don't remember if he ever used distortion.
He played through a big guitar amp, i think.
Well and of course, let's not forget the Maestro himself: Miles Davis
blowes his horn, distorted and through a wah, i think e.g. on "Live
Evil" . It's sometimes hard to tell which lines are played by him and
which are played by the guitar.
Lukas
27 Feb
27 Feb
9:41 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-dev] LAD meeting - LinuxSoundNight
Hallo,
Paul Winkler hat gesagt: // Paul Winkler wrote:
Guitar effects on a microphone is very hard to manage
without uncontrollable
feedback. But I saw it done - on a saxophone yet! - by a trio called
Spongehead (guitar/bass, sax, and drums).
Cool. I even have a record by them, on Shimmy Disc, I think.
The sax player used wah, echo, and an octave divider
(which on a
tenor or bari gave him some very nice deep notes, allowing the sax
to function as the bass player on some songs!). I don't remember if
he ever used distortion. He played through a big guitar amp, i
think.
That was my plan, as well.
Basically you want to:
1) use a very directional mic that mounts on the sax itself -
there are some made for this purpose. I don't know what kind of
pickup the Spongehead guy used, but it seemed to have a cable
coming from near the mouthpiece???
My microphone then wasn't directional enough, I guess.
3) don't stand right in front of your amp :)
But that was the main problem: the room was so small, I had to standing
near the amp. I tried squeezing myself behind it, with some success
squeezing-wise, but not feedback-wise.
ciao
--
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__
28 Feb
28 Feb
6:04 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-dev] LAD meeting - LinuxSoundNight
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo,
Paul Winkler hat gesagt: // Paul Winkler wrote:
Chris Wood of Traffic used to use a pickup from whom I can't recall that
was attached to the neck of his saxaphone. You can hear some of the studio
stuff he did with it on John Barleycorn Must Die and Low Spark of High
Heeled Boys.
Bill
Guitar effects on a microphone is very hard to
manage without uncontrollable
feedback. But I saw it done - on a saxophone yet! - by a trio called
Spongehead (guitar/bass, sax, and drums).
Cool. I even have a record by them, on Shimmy Disc, I think.
> The sax player used wah, echo, and an octave divider (which on a
> tenor or bari gave him some very nice deep notes, allowing the sax
> to function as the bass player on some songs!). I don't remember if
> he ever used distortion. He played through a big guitar amp, i
> think. 
27 Feb
27 Feb
2:01 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-dev] LAD meeting - LinuxSoundNight
On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Frank Barknecht wrote:
Thanks Frank, this WIKI is a very good idea. I added the equipment I
intend to bring (anybody curious ?). We should perhaps use this WIKI also
for the style of music/instruments we could play/record. Maybe also for
scores/songbooks that we will bring to the meeting. Yes, here the question
of copyright comes in. Probably we should not record a Beatles song and
publish the Ogg later ;-) I would have enough classical scores though and
could also bring some of the Jazz Real Books.
Frank Neumann, Goetz Dipper (at ZKM) and I will clarify what equipment is
available for us at ZKM. All registered participants will receive
information on that in the next days.
Matthias
--
Dr. Matthias Nagorni
SuSE Linux AG
Deutschherrnstr. 15-19 phone: +49 911 74053375
D - 90429 Nuernberg fax : +49 911 74053483
28 Feb
28 Feb
8:01 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-dev] LAD meeting - LinuxSoundNight
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 06:53:02PM +0100, Dr. Matthias Nagorni wrote:
On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Frank Barknecht wrote:
Thanks Frank, this WIKI is a very good idea. I added the equipment I
intend to bring (anybody curious ?). We should perhaps use this WIKI also
for the style of music/instruments we could play/record. Maybe also for
scores/songbooks that we will bring to the meeting. Yes, here the question
of copyright comes in. Probably we should not record a Beatles song and
publish the Ogg later ;-) I would have enough classical scores though and
could also bring some of the Jazz Real Books.
Frank Neumann, Goetz Dipper (at ZKM) and I will clarify what equipment is
available for us at ZKM. All registered participants will receive
information on that in the next days.
i would like to come too... anybody passing bremen or north germany
who could give me a lift ?
--
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http://galan.sourceforge.net -- The graphical Audio language
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