22 May
2011
22 May
'11
11:43 a.m.
Hi :)
I only watched pictures and read texts but didn't hear one of those RME
devices, anyway, until now I tend to order the RME FIREFACE 400 or RME
MULTIFACE II if they shouldn't cause issues with Linux. The two HDSP be
possible too.
Any experiences, information?
RME FIREFACE 400
http://www.thomann.de/gb/rme_fireface_400.htm
RME MULTIFACE II
http://www.thomann.de/gb/rme_multiface_ii.htm
RME HDSP 9652
http://www.thomann.de/gb/rme_digi_9652_hdsp.htm
http://www.thomann.de/gb/rme_9652_hdsp_retour.htm
RME HDSP 9632
http://www.thomann.de/gb/rme_digi_9632_hdsp_pcikarte.htm
The sound quality at least should reach that of my elCheapo consumer DAT
Sony DTC-670. The Terratec EWX 24/96 does hardly reach the sound quality
of my Yamaha MT44D 4 track analog cassette recorder, when it wasn't
broken, but well maintained and I heard several Envy24 cards that hardly
reach the 4 track recorders quality.
I'm not interested in this one, but the price-performance ratio is
amazing:
BEHRINGER XENYX X2442 USB
http://www.thomann.de/gb/behringer_xenyx_x2442_usb.htm
I've got a Behringer EURORACK UB2442FX-PRO a very bad mixer, hard to
clean, hard to use, because everything is small, even if it's dust
protected, after 3 years dust issues started. All faders are still ok,
but Group buttons are completely out of order, some channels don't work
any more. I don't had enough money to get a better mixer, when my old
get completely broken but OTOH, the sound quality anyhow is good enough
to reach good consumer quality that is better, than what my Terratec EWX
24/96 are able to record. I wish to get a good sound card, but this
Behringer might be interesting for some people. Note, I never compared a
Mackie with the UB2442FX-PRO directly, a friend has got nearly the same
mixer from Mackie, and I've got the impression that the sound quality of
the Mackie is better. IMO Mackie is some kind of reference for low cost
home recording equipment. Things should sound similar to a Mackie or
better.
I'll start reading
http://www.google.de/#sclient=psy&hl=de&source=hp&q=RME+FIREFAC…
+linux&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=5a4a001e44ffdadc
now.
Best,
Ralf
22 May
22 May
12:08 p.m.
On 05/22/2011 11:43 AM, Ralf wrote:
Hi :)
I only watched pictures and read texts but didn't hear one of those RME
devices, anyway, until now I tend to order the RME FIREFACE 400 or RME
MULTIFACE II if they shouldn't cause issues with Linux. The two HDSP be
possible too.
Any experiences, information?
ralf, as usual, your level of disinformation is astonishing.
the fireface is an ieee1394 device, and the ffado drivers are somewhat
experimental. so yes, this would be an "issue with linux". i suggest you
check the ffado.org website and look through the ffado mailing list
archive to see if the current level of support is sufficient for what
you want to do.
the multiface ii is a break-out and converter box. it doesn't work on
its own. consequently, there are no driver issues associated with its
use, other than the firmware upload which the host computer has to take
care of when you boot the device.
what you want to look into is the corresponding pci(e) card with the
connector that looks like firewire but isn't (proprietary rme protocol).
the quality of the converters on the multiface leaves nothing to be desired.
the 9652 and 9636 cards are digital-only, with two resp. three adat i/o
connectors. consequently, their "sound quality" is perfect.
you will have to combine them with some external adat ad/da converter.
most if not all rme cards come pci and pci express flavours. as you
mentioned in a previous posting, the pci prices have dropped a lot, but
when you consider one, factor in the cost for mainboards with pci slots
- they will become quite rare in mass market in the near future, and
then you would have to pay extra to get some "industry"-type product
that still has them. for an idea of the extra cost, try shopping for an
industry board with ISA slots today (still needed to run legacy process
control cards and whatnot).
all rme cards i've come across will happily run at 64 frames, and some
of the newer ones let you go down to 32 or 16, although i have not tried
this yet.
12:46 p.m.
On Sun, 2011-05-22 at 12:08 +0200, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
On 05/22/2011 11:43 AM, Ralf wrote:
Hi Jörn,
thank you :).
Disinformation? I didn't have any information, neither right nor wrong
information, that's why I'm asking.
Hi :)
I only watched pictures and read texts but didn't hear one of those RME
devices, anyway, until now I tend to order the RME FIREFACE 400 or RME
MULTIFACE II if they shouldn't cause issues with Linux. The two HDSP be
possible too.
Any experiences, information?
ralf, as usual, your level of disinformation is astonishing. the fireface is an ieee1394 device, and the ffado
drivers are somewhat
experimental. so yes, this would be an "issue with linux". i suggest you
check the ffado.org website and look through the ffado mailing list
archive to see if the current level of support is sufficient for what
you want to do.
the multiface ii is a break-out and converter box. it doesn't work on
its own. consequently, there are no driver issues associated with its
use, other than the firmware upload which the host computer has to take
care of when you boot the device.
what you want to look into is the corresponding pci(e) card with the
connector that looks like firewire but isn't (proprietary rme protocol).
the quality of the converters on the multiface leaves nothing to be desired.
You do write the same as another one does write in a forum :). I tend to
order a Multiface.
the 9652 and 9636 cards are digital-only, with two
resp. three adat i/o
connectors. consequently, their "sound quality" is perfect.
you will have to combine them with some external adat ad/da converter.
most if not all rme cards come pci and pci express flavours. as you
mentioned in a previous posting, the pci prices have dropped a lot, but
when you consider one, factor in the cost for mainboards with pci slots
- they will become quite rare in mass market in the near future, and
then you would have to pay extra to get some "industry"-type product
that still has them. for an idea of the extra cost, try shopping for an
industry board with ISA slots today (still needed to run legacy process
control cards and whatnot).
Yes, my ASUS M2A-VM HDMI motherboard only has 2 PCI slots, occupied by 2
Terratec EWX 24/96 cards.
I removed the HDMI thingy and used the PCIe slot for a GeForce 7200GS,
because 3D doesn't work for the integrated Radeon X1250-based graphics.
Btw. the board has got one PCIe x16 and one PCIe x1 slot.
I could remove the GeForce, 3D isn't important at the moment. Because
the Multiface is less expensive, I also could order a new motherboard,
if I should need 3D ... perhaps, I don't know what I need to replace
too, I randomly picked some mobos ... DDR3 instead of DDR2 seems to be
no moneywise issue, I guess this is all I would need to change.
So the future is NO PCI, but several PCIe x16 and x1 slots?
all rme cards i've come across will happily run at
64 frames, and some
of the newer ones let you go down to 32 or 16, although i have not tried
this yet.
Somebody on a forum wrote that 32 frames are ok for his RME, for a real
multi-channel productions!
Thank you very much. My impression is that RME cards are the best choice
for Linux.
Best,
Ralf
12:54 p.m.
On Sun, 2011-05-22 at 12:46 +0200, Ralf wrote:
On Sun, 2011-05-22 at 12:08 +0200, Jörn Nettingsmeier
wrote:
Oops, my broken English ... there are issues? Googleing for "multiface
ii linux" results with reported issue :S.
On 05/22/2011 11:43 AM, Ralf wrote:
Hi Jörn,
thank you :).
Disinformation? I didn't have any information, neither right nor wrong
information, that's why I'm asking.
> the fireface is an ieee1394 device, and the ffado drivers are somewhat
> experimental. so yes, this would be an "issue with linux". i suggest you
> check the ffado.org website and look through the ffado mailing list
> archive to see if the current level of support is sufficient for what
> you want to do.
>
> the multiface ii is a break-out and converter box. it doesn't work on
> its own. consequently, there are no driver issues associated with its
> use, other than the firmware upload which the host computer has to take
> care of when you boot the device. Hi :)
I only watched pictures and read texts but didn't hear one of those RME
devices, anyway, until now I tend to order the RME FIREFACE 400 or RME
MULTIFACE II if they shouldn't cause issues with Linux. The two HDSP be
possible too.
Any experiences, information?
ralf, as usual, your level of disinformation is astonishing. what you want
to look into is the corresponding pci(e) card with the
connector that looks like firewire but isn't (proprietary rme protocol).
the quality of the converters on the multiface leaves nothing to be desired.
You do write the same as another one does write in a forum :). I tend to
order a Multiface.
the 9652 and 9636 cards are digital-only, with
two resp. three adat i/o
connectors. consequently, their "sound quality" is perfect.
you will have to combine them with some external adat ad/da converter.
most if not all rme cards come pci and pci express flavours. as you
mentioned in a previous posting, the pci prices have dropped a lot, but
when you consider one, factor in the cost for mainboards with pci slots
- they will become quite rare in mass market in the near future, and
then you would have to pay extra to get some "industry"-type product
that still has them. for an idea of the extra cost, try shopping for an
industry board with ISA slots today (still needed to run legacy process
control cards and whatnot).
Yes, my ASUS M2A-VM HDMI motherboard only has 2 PCI slots, occupied by 2
Terratec EWX 24/96 cards.
I removed the HDMI thingy and used the PCIe slot for a GeForce 7200GS,
because 3D doesn't work for the integrated Radeon X1250-based graphics.
Btw. the board has got one PCIe x16 and one PCIe x1 slot.
I could remove the GeForce, 3D isn't important at the moment. Because
the Multiface is less expensive, I also could order a new motherboard,
if I should need 3D ... perhaps, I don't know what I need to replace
too, I randomly picked some mobos ... DDR3 instead of DDR2 seems to be
no moneywise issue, I guess this is all I would need to change.
So the future is NO PCI, but several PCIe x16 and x1 slots?
all rme cards i've come across will happily
run at 64 frames, and some
of the newer ones let you go down to 32 or 16, although i have not tried
this yet.
Somebody on a forum wrote that 32 frames are ok for his RME, for a real
multi-channel productions!
Thank you very much. My impression is that RME cards are the best choice
for Linux.
Best,
Ralf
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