22 Sep
2005
22 Sep
'05
7:33 p.m.
Paul Davis
On Tue, 2005-09-20 at 08:29 +0300, Aaron wrote:
Are you serious? Do you know python? I hope not...
I don`t want to start a flame-war over programming languages,
but I know both scheme and python very well, and would
never consider python as an extension language again.
--
please save me from another lisp/scheme
scriptable application....
breathe deeply. think of snakes. say "python". The scripting should be in a language easy enough
for a non programer to
use.
Is xsl a possibility or is there a scripting language that is easier
than lisp/scheme? 
22 Sep
22 Sep
8:01 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-dev] libcui - design-question
On Thu, Sep 22, 2005 at 11:33:23PM +0200, Kjetil Svalastog Matheussen wrote:
Paul Davis
right, so how about exposing the internals of Ardour via OSC so we can script it as we see
fit (in the i-hate-perl language choice), write custom GUIs, etc...
On Tue, 2005-09-20 at 08:29 +0300, Aaron wrote:
Are you serious? Do you know python? I hope not...
I don`t want to start a flame-war over programming languages,
but I know both scheme and python very well, and would
never consider python as an extension language again. please save me from another lisp/scheme
scriptable application....
breathe deeply. think of snakes. say "python". The scripting should be in a language easy enough
for a non programer to
use.
Is xsl a possibility or is there a scripting language that is easier
than lisp/scheme? 
23 Sep
23 Sep
9:12 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-dev] libcui - design-question
[Kjetil Svalastog Matheussen]
Would you care to back up this judgment by a few facts?
One has to consider that a scripting extension for an application like
ardour, with an intended audience of little to no programming
knowledge, will have to be as painless and intuitive to learn and use
as possible and still provide power and freedom of expression to the
savvy.
I know of no language that fits this bill better than python.
Cheers, Tim
breathe deeply.
think of snakes. say "python".
Are you serious? Do you know python? I hope not...
I don`t want to start a flame-war over programming languages,
but I know both scheme and python very well, and would
never consider python as an extension language again. 
9:54 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-dev] libcui - design-question
On Fri, 2005-09-23 at 13:04 +0200, Tim Goetze wrote:
[Kjetil Svalastog Matheussen]
Would you care to back up this judgment by a few facts?
One has to consider that a scripting extension for an application like
ardour, with an intended audience of little to no programming
knowledge, will have to be as painless and intuitive to learn and use
as possible and still provide power and freedom of expression to the
savvy.
I know of no language that fits this bill better than python.
Lua perhaps?
http://www.lua.org/
There's a somewhat Lua-oriented comparison here:
http://lua-users.org/wiki/LuaVersusPython
And (balance!) a somewhat Python-oriented comparison starts here:
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/tutor/2003-December/026847.html
Simon
breathe
deeply. think of snakes. say "python".
Are you serious? Do you know python? I hope not...
I don`t want to start a flame-war over programming languages,
but I know both scheme and python very well, and would
never consider python as an extension language again.
5:04 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-dev] libcui - design-question
[Simon Jenkins]
On Fri, 2005-09-23 at 13:04 +0200, Tim Goetze wrote:
That's a very interesting read, with lots of experience from people
into embedding either language it seems. "The Pythonic way is to
extend rather than embed", one of the many quotes worth pondering.
I know of no language that fits this bill better than python.
Lua perhaps?
http://www.lua.org/
There's a somewhat Lua-oriented comparison here:
http://lua-users.org/wiki/LuaVersusPython From my experience, python threading is not as
problematic as this
discussion paints it. You simply have to live with one big
lock; if
you get that right there's nothing keeping you from running multiple
threads. Hard realtime scripting is out of the question anyway.
Lua seems quite nice, yet I'm tempted to think that Python is still a
wee bit more friendly towards non-programmers. But if I was an ardour
architect I'd definitely give Lua serious consideration too.
Cheers, Tim
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