16 Jan
2007
16 Jan
'07
3:30 a.m.
Hi,
Sorry for crossposting, which is intentional. See below ;)
I personally think that this multiplication of LA lists is not a good thing.
The idea, proposed by Ivica, which politely suggests the migration of all
those lists to an unique one seems very good to me.
I would even suggest the usage of a forum (à la php-forum) for information
sharing. Those forums would allow multiple topics (LAD, LAA, LAU, Ardour,
Rosegarden, MuSE, Jack, ... ) and in the same time facilitate the research,
the tracking of topics and the most important thing, would allow the linux
newcomers to see all the work done in those lists.
I hope that I'm not irritating anyone by suggesting the above, but we are all
conscious of the fact that linux audio is still a niche "market" so having an
unique point of access to the posts would really be awesome.
Cheers,
Predrag Viceic
http://freecycle.redsteamrecords.com
16 Jan
16 Jan
10:42 a.m.
Hello,
I prefer a mailinglist over a forum but talking about information
sharing, I wonder if there is a central howto page, more user oriented,
which shows at one central point what and how audio stuff can be
archived on Linux, what are the problems and WHY they are there (if
there is one please excuse my ignorance). There is the Alsa project page
which offers good hardware information, there is linux-sound.org which
is an amazing ressource of links to applications but these sites assume
that you know what you are searching for. I guess there are lots of
people who just want to create music and look over the Windows fence but
are overwhelmed by the complexity of choice and think that everything is
complicated. Jacklab and Ubuntustudio is a bit in this direction. I
guess it has to be a wiki and communitydriven but also has to have a
certain asthetic standard to not putoff the enduser. Biggest challange
now in my opinion for Open Source is enduser documentation. Adam Hydes
Flossmanual http://www.flossmanuals.net is a good hit in that direction.
Cheers,
Malte
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Malte Steiner
media art + development
-www.block4.com-
12:18 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: [linux-audio-dev] LAD/LAU/LAA/Consortium/...
Oh dear...
Please note that Linuxaudio.org offer does *not* suggest moving to forums.
Again, let me repeat, it does *not* suggest moving to forums.
It suggests moving the existing mailing lists LAD/LAU/LAA, so that they are
hosted under Linuxaudio.org. They would still remain the same lists with
same subscribers and same features. The only difference is that we would
have them under the Linuxaudio.org umbrella. Namely, we would have
linux-audio-dev(a)linuxaudio.org etc., instead of
linux-audio-dev(a)music.columbia.edu. But also, more importantly, these as
well as any other relevant lists that end-up being consolidated, would be
found under *one* *single* URL: lists.linuxaudio.org. And that, in and of
itself in my book (and I am sure in a book of any newcomer to Linux audio)
would be truly priceless.
Best wishes,
Ico
1:25 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: [linux-audio-dev] LAD/LAU/LAA/Consortium/...
On 1/16/07, Ivica Ico Bukvic <ico(a)vt.edu> wrote:
Oh dear...
Please note that Linuxaudio.org offer does *not* suggest moving to forums.
Again, let me repeat, it does *not* suggest moving to forums.
Are you sure we should move the lists to a forum ?
;-)
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Marc-Olivier Barre,
Markinoko.
17 Jan
17 Jan
3:05 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: [linux-audio-dev] LAD/LAU/LAA/Consortium/...
I didn't pretend that Linuxaudio.org suggest moving to forums. Read my post.
*I* suggest moving to forums as *I* think it's better way to exchange the info
than those 90-tish, Mailman powered, mailing lists where you can't even
search for posts or whatever.
And apparently I'm not the only one that pretends that:
Ardour has a forum: http://ardour.org/forum/15
Rosegarden has a forum: http://www.nabble.com/RoseGarden-f2887.html
Hydrogen has a forum : http://www.hydrogen-music.org/forum/
etc. etc. etc.
WFT?! even glibc has a forum !!
http://www.nabble.com/Sourceware---glibc-f12198.html
The idea I had in mind when talking about linux audio forums:
http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/
Predrag Viceic
http://freecycle.redsteamrecords.com
And no, Freecycle does not have a forum because Savanah doesn't provide such
tool.
Disclaimer: The opinions expressed are solely mine and not of the members of
linuxaudio.org "consortium".
Le mardi 16 janvier 2007 17:17, Ivica Ico Bukvic a écrit :
Oh dear...
Please note that Linuxaudio.org offer does *not* suggest moving to forums.
Again, let me repeat, it does *not* suggest moving to forums.
It suggests moving the existing mailing lists LAD/LAU/LAA, so that they are
hosted under Linuxaudio.org. They would still remain the same lists with
same subscribers and same features. The only difference is that we would
have them under the Linuxaudio.org umbrella. Namely, we would have
linux-audio-dev(a)linuxaudio.org etc., instead of
linux-audio-dev(a)music.columbia.edu. But also, more importantly, these as
well as any other relevant lists that end-up being consolidated, would be
found under *one* *single* URL: lists.linuxaudio.org. And that, in and of
itself in my book (and I am sure in a book of any newcomer to Linux audio)
would be truly priceless.
Best wishes,
Ico
7:05 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: [linux-audio-dev] LAD/LAU/LAA/Consortium/...
On 1/17/07, Predrag Viceic <viceic(a)net2000.ch> wrote:
I didn't pretend that Linuxaudio.org suggest
moving to forums. Read my post.
*I* suggest moving to forums as *I* think it's better way to exchange the info
than those 90-tish, Mailman powered, mailing lists where you can't even
search for posts or whatever.
And apparently I'm not the only one that pretends that:
Ardour has a forum: http://ardour.org/forum/15
Rosegarden has a forum: http://www.nabble.com/RoseGarden-f2887.html
Hydrogen has a forum : http://www.hydrogen-music.org/forum/
etc. etc. etc.
WFT?! even glibc has a forum !!
http://www.nabble.com/Sourceware---glibc-f12198.html
The idea I had in mind when talking about linux audio forums:
http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/
Ardour is a bad example : most of the serious technical stuff is
either discussed on IRC or in a bug report on the tracker (which leads
to more tailking on IRC...)
Cheers,
--
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Marc-Olivier Barre,
Markinoko.
8:22 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: [linux-audio-dev] LAD/LAU/LAA/Consortium/...
Marc-Olivier Barre wrote:
On 1/17/07, Predrag Viceic <viceic(a)net2000.ch>
wrote:
More to the point: The forums are application-specific, not general in
nature. The LA* mail-lists are general, non-specific wrt applications
discussed.
I'm a member of a few forums that are successful, but I don't think a
forum is the best comm channel for general discussion of Linux audio
software use and development. IMO the mail lists function nicely now.
Best,
dp
I didn't pretend that Linuxaudio.org suggest
moving to forums. Read
my post.
*I* suggest moving to forums as *I* think it's better way to exchange
the info
than those 90-tish, Mailman powered, mailing lists where you can't even
search for posts or whatever.
And apparently I'm not the only one that pretends that:
Ardour has a forum: http://ardour.org/forum/15
Rosegarden has a forum: http://www.nabble.com/RoseGarden-f2887.html
Hydrogen has a forum : http://www.hydrogen-music.org/forum/
etc. etc. etc.
WFT?! even glibc has a forum !!
http://www.nabble.com/Sourceware---glibc-f12198.html
The idea I had in mind when talking about linux audio forums:
http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/
Ardour is a bad example : most of the serious technical stuff is
either discussed on IRC or in a bug report on the tracker (which leads
to more tailking on IRC...) 
1:59 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: [linux-audio-dev] LAD/LAU/LAA/Consortium/...
*I* suggest moving to forums as *I* think it's
better way to exchange the info
than those 90-tish, Mailman powered, mailing lists where you can't even
search for posts or whatever.
Personally, ever since switching to gmail which handles lists using
tags and has excellent searching capabilities, I far prefer lists over
forums/boards.
However, I think it's sort of silly to have to chose at all. Mailing
lists and boards are so similar, there's no reason you can't just have
both.
For instance, there is a plugin for phpBB that allows people to sign
up to the board and treat it like a mailing list. Of course, since
mailman is probably a better mailing list handler than phpBB, it would
be better to have some sort of web-based interface to the mailing
lists (still handled by mailman), accessible through linuxaudio.org.
Anyone know of a good solution for that?
By the way, there is at least the risk that web-accessible forums will
increase spam risks. Usually requiring registration helps with that,
but I don't know if its enough.
Steve
2:25 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: [linux-audio-dev] LAD/LAU/LAA/Consortium/...
On Wednesday 17 January 2007 18:57, Stephen Sinclair wrote:
[...]
For instance, there is a plugin for phpBB that allows
people to sign
up to the board and treat it like a mailing list. Of course, since
mailman is probably a better mailing list handler than phpBB, it
would be better to have some sort of web-based interface to the
mailing lists (still handled by mailman), accessible through
linuxaudio.org.
Anyone know of a good solution for that?
Not much experience with using this; just noticed that SDL and some
other lists are wired to it:
http://gmane.org/
//David Olofson - Programmer, Composer, Open Source Advocate
.------- http://olofson.net - Games, SDL examples -------.
| http://zeespace.net - 2.5D rendering engine |
| http://audiality.org - Music/audio engine |
| http://eel.olofson.net - Real time scripting |
'-- http://www.reologica.se - Rheology instrumentation --'
2:16 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: [linux-audio-dev] LAD/LAU/LAA/Consortium/...
On Wednesday 17 Jan 2007 07:05, Predrag Viceic wrote:
Rosegarden has a forum:
http://www.nabble.com/RoseGarden-f2887.html
FWIW Rosegarden doesn't have a forum -- the above is a web gateway to its user
mailing list. It's OK for reading, but not much cop for posting.
Chris
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