try sending a message with the body and/or subject of "help" to the gmpi-request address. yes, there is a digest mode. the list begain in february. the design process for GMPI was outlined (this was somewhat mandated by the MMA). An agenda was developed to handle the requirements phase, which consisted of on the order of 10-20 broad topics, which several sub-questions per topic. The list "moderator" (sometimes Ron Kuper of Cakewalk, sometimes Tim when Ron is busy) posts a section question, we discuss it, when the discussion dies down, Ron/someone posts a summary. If everyone agrees with the summary, we move on to the next section. This process has been slowing recently, and I've suggested a change in procedure so that we focus on a review/discussion of existing APIs in the context of the requirements agenda. The agenda itself has the following broad topics: 1. Cross-platform 2. Plugin flavors 3. Host interface 4. Audio packaging 5. Time representation 6. Parameter representation 7. Persistence 8. Threading 9. GUI 10. The role of MIDI 11. Component packaging 12. Enumeration (creation, discovery, etc.) 13. Copy protection 14. Localization 15. DSP state 17. Source code with much more specific subquestions already listed for each topic. We are currently at about topic 6/7. please don't try to second guess GMPI. either become a participant on the list, or just wait. there are some really really good people there, and everybody who is actively participating has the best intentions. no platform-specific discussion (linux, windows, macos, tdm whatever) will really get close to what is going on there. --p