It's an opportunity, too, though -- there's a segment of the Mac population that can barely justify the cost premium for Mac hardware, because they use the hardware for recreation or avocation, not as a tool to make more money. If the Linux folks: -- Port the popular apps to OS X, and improve them so that the honest and budget-conscious Mac folks adopt the free Linux apps rather than pirate commercial apps. -- Keep those apps running just as well (or better) under Linux, and evangelize the hardware cost differential. Linux audio could probably carve out the budget-conscious Mac subset over a period of 3-5 years, which (random guess) is 100,000 users or so. That's not my motivation for putting sfront on OS X -- that has more to do with just reaching more users to popularize the underlying standards -- but it might be a motivation for the mainstream Linux GUI audio apps to start a serious OS X porting effort. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Lazzaro -- Research Specialist -- CS Division -- EECS -- UC Berkeley lazzaro [at] cs [dot] berkeley [dot] edu www.cs.berkeley.edu/~lazzaro -------------------------------------------------------------------------