19 Jul
2009
19 Jul
'09
10:36 a.m.
Hi,
Looking for a distribution-agnostic, community-maintained place for gathering
linuxaudio-related documentation, wiki.linuxaudio.org seems to be one of the
main resources.
The visual style seemed a bit old-fashioned and cluttered. I took a stab at
cleaning it up a bit:
http://arnout.engelen.eu/files/dev/linuxmusicians/linuxaudiostyle/
How do you like it?
'wiki.linuxaudio.org' and 'apps.linuxaudio.org' have a different logo and
a
different start page, but apart from that share the exact same content. This
is pretty confusing. Wouldn't it be more elegant to make
'apps.linuxaudio.org'
redirect to something like 'wiki.linuxaudio.org/apps' ?
Regards,
Arnout Engelen
10:52 a.m.
On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 14:29:18 +0200
Arnout Engelen <lad(a)bzzt.net> wrote:
Hi,
Looking for a distribution-agnostic, community-maintained place for
gathering linuxaudio-related documentation, wiki.linuxaudio.org seems
to be one of the main resources.
The visual style seemed a bit old-fashioned and cluttered. I took a
stab at cleaning it up a bit:
http://arnout.engelen.eu/files/dev/linuxmusicians/linuxaudiostyle/
How do you like it?
Better than the old one :)
'wiki.linuxaudio.org' and
'apps.linuxaudio.org' have a different logo
and a different start page, but apart from that share the exact same
content. This is pretty confusing. Wouldn't it be more elegant to
make 'apps.linuxaudio.org' redirect to something like
'wiki.linuxaudio.org/apps' ?
Regards,
Arnout Engelen
I was never quite aware that the apps. is just a wiki as well. Not sure
about the address but I think the templates for the apps pages could be
a lot better as well. Right now it's simply not inviting imho.
And we should tackle the linuxaudio.org mainpage, which is quite bad at
the moment.
3:46 p.m.
On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 02:52:40PM +0200, hollunder(a)gmx.at wrote:
we should tackle the linuxaudio.org mainpage, which is
quite bad at
the moment.
Let me give some (concrete) feedback on some of the rest of the site:
I quite like the style of the main page.
The 'Music' section is a bit embarassing as it still claims it is 'slated
to become an annual CD', but then proceeds to mention only one CD created
some 5 years ago.
The 'Search' is good (though not great), would deserve some more exposure.
The 'Mail archive' seems unusable for me (only browsing per-day? wtf?)
The 'Resources' section might deserve some more attention, since that's where
the links to the 'real stuff' are.
http://lad.linuxaudio.org/subscribe/general.html has 2 links to 'list-specific
pages' pointing to http://lad.linuxaudio.org/subscribe/subscribe.php. That page
no longer exist, I'd say replace those with 'index page' and just link to
index.html.
http://lad.linuxaudio.org/resources links to 'resourceslinks.html', this
should probably be replaced by a link to http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/newbie
The 'archive' link at http://lad.linuxaudio.org/subscribe/lad.html links to
http://lad.linuxaudio.org/subscribe/archive/lau.html , I suppose that should
be http://lad.linuxaudio.org/archive/lad.html .
Who has write access to the site?
Arnout
23 Jul
23 Jul
2:38 p.m.
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Hi Arnout,
Your criticism is valid and you provide good suggestions.
I'll hook you up with an account to the www-drupal.
Arnout Engelen wrote:
On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 02:52:40PM +0200,
hollunder(a)gmx.at wrote:
ack. BTW. Does anyone know what happened to lam.fugal.net ?
we should tackle the linuxaudio.org mainpage,
which is quite bad at
the moment.
Let me give some (concrete) feedback on some of the rest of the site:
I quite like the style of the main page.
The 'Music' section is a bit embarassing as it still claims it is 'slated
to become an annual CD', but then proceeds to mention only one CD created
some 5 years ago. The 'Search' is good (though not great), would
deserve some more exposure.
The 'Mail archive' seems unusable for me (only browsing per-day? wtf?)
Instead of patching the drupal mail-archive-views, let's just make a
"Mail Archive" page that points to lists.linuxaudio.org along with some
information and links to the feeds (eg.
http://linuxaudio.org/mailarchive/lad/feed).
What do you think?
The browse-by-day is a shortcoming of drupal's mailmodule.
However once you're reading a message there (eg. search-result) you can
follow it's thread across days quite easily.
The 'Resources' section might deserve some
more attention, since that's where
the links to the 'real stuff' are.
IMO, if we manage to visualize the resources list better, it should
become the front-page.
http://lad.linuxaudio.org/subscribe/general.html has 2
links to 'list-specific
pages' pointing to http://lad.linuxaudio.org/subscribe/subscribe.php. That page
no longer exist, I'd say replace those with 'index page' and just link to
index.html.
http://lad.linuxaudio.org/resources links to 'resourceslinks.html', this
should probably be replaced by a link to http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/newbie
The 'archive' link at http://lad.linuxaudio.org/subscribe/lad.html links to
http://lad.linuxaudio.org/subscribe/archive/lau.html , I suppose that should
be http://lad.linuxaudio.org/archive/lad.html .
lad is mostly deprecated. It's content is to be migrated to
www.linuxaudio.org and wiki.linuxaudio.org. See comments in earlier emails.
Who has write access to the site?
Burkhard Ritter (CCed) is site-admin and with Ico responsible for
content of www.linuxaudio.org. Ico and I are root of the server.
robin
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19 Jul
19 Jul
11:06 a.m.
On 07/19/2009 07:29 PM, Arnout Engelen wrote:
Hi,
Looking for a distribution-agnostic, community-maintained place for gathering
linuxaudio-related documentation, wiki.linuxaudio.org seems to be one of the
main resources.
The visual style seemed a bit old-fashioned and cluttered. I took a stab at
cleaning it up a bit:
http://arnout.engelen.eu/files/dev/linuxmusicians/linuxaudiostyle/
How do you like it?
This template is more inline with the homepage for lao.
'wiki.linuxaudio.org' and
'apps.linuxaudio.org' have a different logo and a
different start page, but apart from that share the exact same content. This
is pretty confusing. Wouldn't it be more elegant to make
'apps.linuxaudio.org'
redirect to something like 'wiki.linuxaudio.org/apps' ?
It's just an entry point for search engines to reference. No harm done
and easier to type.
Regards,
Arnout Engelen
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1:14 p.m.
Arnout Engelen wrote:
Looking for a distribution-agnostic,
community-maintained place for gathering
linuxaudio-related documentation, wiki.linuxaudio.org seems to be one of the
main resources.
The visual style seemed a bit old-fashioned and cluttered. I took a stab at
cleaning it up a bit:
http://arnout.engelen.eu/files/dev/linuxmusicians/linuxaudiostyle/
How do you like it?
Looks better to me too.
Best,
dp
23 Jul
23 Jul
2:06 p.m.
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Arnout Engelen wrote:
Hi,
Looking for a distribution-agnostic, community-maintained place for gathering
linuxaudio-related documentation, wiki.linuxaudio.org seems to be one of the
main resources.
The visual style seemed a bit old-fashioned and cluttered. I took a stab at
cleaning it up a bit:
http://arnout.engelen.eu/files/dev/linuxmusicians/linuxaudiostyle/
How do you like it?
nice job. Did you just make a mockup, or do you have dokuwiki templates?
Styling the wiki and apps sites has been on our ToDo list a very long
time. - There are some drafts of templates to test at
http://apps.linuxaudio.org/wiki/user/rgareus . The "linuxaudio - no
background" theme is similar to your re-design.
'wiki.linuxaudio.org' and
'apps.linuxaudio.org' have a different logo and a
different start page, but apart from that share the exact same content.
Yes, they're the same dokuwiki-engine. wiki.linuxaudio.org is just an
alias for apps.linuxaudio.org. The hostnames are interchangeable and
are simply entry points.
This
is pretty confusing. Wouldn't it be more elegant to make
'apps.linuxaudio.org'
redirect to something like 'wiki.linuxaudio.org/apps' ?
Historically apps preceded wiki. So it ended up the other way 'round.
The logo was a bug. The apps-logo should only appear if one is below
[apps|wiki].linuxaudio.org/apps/ - I've just fixed that.
To further reduce confusion I've taken your hint and made
wiki.linuxaudio.org the canonical hostname for both wiki.lao and apps.lao.
robin
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