7 Jan
2005
7 Jan
'05
10:40 a.m.
Hi,
i'm writing this email, because i'm interested in what plans the
different linux audio developers have for the year 2005 Any new
revolutionary applications planned? Major changes to some of the
existing apps? So let us know. What are your roadmaps for 2005? What are
you guys up to?
Where is help needed?
Anyways, i start off with my own stuff:
amidimon - a terminal midi monitoring app which is very incomplete, but
works good for me. I will finally add the autoconnection feature
somewhere in the spring of this year. I have seen some alternative midi
monitoring apps on the mailing lists in the last year, so maybe i just
dump the project completely instead
rtc_mtc_gen - a small MTC generator app for alsa_seq. I will teach it
drop modes and FPS other than 30
Session - a small gtk2 app to organize collections of programs which
make up a "session". I plan to add LASH support sometime this year. I
think LASH needs a major revisiting though as imho the adoption of it is
rather slow. Maybe it's already too intrusive to applications (i will
start another thread on LASH specifically i think)? Session is still
alpha (planning stage) and if anyone wants to get involved i will be all
ears to suggestions..
The 2.6.x linux audio wiki - i need to definitely update it with newer
information. Sadly spammers have discovered my wiki and i had to disable
public editing access. This is the first thing i'll do after i have
finished some university stuff.
Find my stuff here:
http://www.affenbande.org/~tapas/wiki/index.php?Ware
and here:
http://www.affenbande.org/~tapas/linux-2.6.x-ll.html
Regards,
Florian Schmidt
--
Palimm Palimm!
http://affenbande.org/~tapas/
7 Jan
7 Jan
11:44 a.m.
Florian Schmidt wrote:
Hi,
i'm writing this email, because i'm interested in what plans the
different linux audio developers have for the year 2005 Any new
revolutionary applications planned? Major changes to some of the
existing apps? So let us know. What are your roadmaps for 2005? What are
you guys up to?
Where is help needed?
Hi,
Now that you ask for it, some of the stuff you mentioned is already being
integrated into qjackctl, something like your amidimon (MIDI event
monitoring). Audio meters (ppm) are also in the workshelf. These new
bloat-features are almost pretty functional on my side, but still rough in
the edges. I suspect they will be ready for release on a couple on months.
March is on ;)
Probably a too long awaited and requested feature on qjackctl has been
LASH support as an integrated session manager. Unfortunately this has been
postponed several times, mostly due to lazyness. Maybe we can bring that
back from the limbo, once again, during this year?
I'll be rather happy if we could join forces on scratching our own hitches :)
On another route, here goes my pending list, as taken from memory:
qsampler - complete and proper device management support.
qsynth - pushing it into the DSSI arena.
qjackctl - renaming the whole project into qjack (already registered on SF:)
And probably more to come, at will.
Bye now.
--
rncbc aka Rui Nuno Capela
rncbc(a)rncbc.org
12:29 p.m.
Hi Paul,
No I didn't. I remember you suggesting that very name almost one year ago,
when qjackctl was in its early infancy, and being already registered as
something else on SF (a gnutella server?).
I also thought of qack, but,.... naah... :)
--
rncbc aka Rui Nuno Capela
rncbc(a)rncbc.org
qjackctl -
renaming the whole project into qjack (already registered on
SF:)
you missed a golden opportunity: quack!
11 Jan
11 Jan
4:14 a.m.
Hi, I know there has been no annoucement of my project, but that said,
lilyxml - an xml wrapper to lilypond.
For this year we plan to finish the xml syntax, the conversion from
lilyxml to lilypond, a parser, creation of a viable unicode music font
and as much progress as possible towards an xslt/svg display/printing
mechanisim.
Regards
Aaron
7 Jan
7 Jan
12:49 p.m.
New subject: Feature request for qjackctl - was: [linux-audio-dev] Plans/Roadmaps for 2005?
On Friday 07 January 2005 16:42, Rui Nuno Capela wrote:
Now that you ask for it, some of the stuff you
mentioned is already being
integrated into qjackctl, something like your amidimon (MIDI event
monitoring). Audio meters (ppm) are also in the workshelf. These new
bloat-features are almost pretty functional on my side, but still rough in
the edges. I suspect they will be ready for release on a couple on months.
March is on ;)
Probably a too long awaited and requested feature on qjackctl has been
LASH support as an integrated session manager. Unfortunately this has been
postponed several times, mostly due to lazyness. Maybe we can bring that
back from the limbo, once again, during this year?
What about adding full transport control widgets to qjackctl? So you can
control every multitracker, sequencer and pattern-player from one app...
Arnold
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replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.
There is another theory which states that this has already happened.
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8:20 p.m.
New subject: Feature request for qjackctl - was: [linux-audio-dev] Plans/Roadmaps for 2005?
Arnold Krille wrote:
What about adding full transport control widgets to qjackctl? So you can
control every multitracker, sequencer and pattern-player from one app...
You mean some reset [|<], rewind [<<] and ffwd [>>] transport
buttons?
Yes, that can be arranged.
Thanks for the suggestion.
--
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rncbc(a)rncbc.org
8 Jan
8 Jan
4:43 a.m.
New subject: Feature request for qjackctl - was: [linux-audio-dev] Plans/Roadmaps for 2005?
On Saturday 08 January 2005 01:16, Rui Nuno Capela wrote:
Arnold Krille wrote:
That would be cool!
And perhaps setting tempo and bars and beats?
Arnold
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What about adding full transport control widgets
to qjackctl? So you can
control every multitracker, sequencer and pattern-player from one app...
You mean
some reset [|<], rewind [<<] and ffwd [>>] transport buttons?
Yes, that can be arranged.
5:13 a.m.
New subject: Feature request for qjackctl - was: [linux-audio-dev] Plans/Roadmaps for 2005?
On Saturday 08 January 2005 09:43, Arnold Krille wrote:
On Saturday 08 January 2005 01:16, Rui Nuno Capela
wrote:
Oh, and perhaps tapping the tempo?
Imagine: Tapping the tempo in QJack and either with a click on play or by
"autostart" hydrogen gives you the beat. ;-)
Arnold
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There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the
Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be
replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.
There is another theory which states that this has already happened.
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Arnold Krille wrote:
And perhaps setting tempo and bars and beats? What about adding full transport control widgets
to qjackctl? So you
can control every multitracker, sequencer and pattern-player from one
app...
You mean some reset [|<], rewind [<<] and ffwd [>>]
transport buttons?
Yes, that can be arranged.
7 Jan
7 Jan
12:51 p.m.
On Friday 07 January 2005 15:40, Florian Schmidt wrote:
i'm writing this email, because i'm interested
in what plans the
different linux audio developers have for the year 2005 Any new
revolutionary applications planned? Major changes to some of the
existing apps? So let us know. What are your roadmaps for 2005? What are
you guys up to?
Where is help needed?
My current plans are to bring JackMix into a shape for next release.
Currently there are big things to do and progress is impressing. Check
http://roederberg.dyndns.org/~arnold/jackmix/ for details and access to the
svn...
I would be happy to discuss internals of JackMix with others and I accept help
from others ;-)
Arnold
--
There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the
Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be
replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.
There is another theory which states that this has already happened.
-- Douglas Adams, The Restaurant at the End of the Universe
3:14 p.m.
Hey All -
At the moment I'm adding a 'quirk' to alsa usb-midi to support
the Novation USB-MIDI devices: X-Station, Remote25 and Speedio.
Then who knows, maybe templates for X-Station to handle the more
popular open source audio/midi apps.
ccb
On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 15:40:33 +0100
Florian Schmidt <mista.tapas(a)gmx.net> wrote:
Hi,
i'm writing this email, because i'm interested in what plans the
different linux audio developers have for the year 2005 Any new
revolutionary applications planned? Major changes to some of the
existing apps? So let us know. What are your roadmaps for 2005? What are
you guys up to?
Where is help needed?
Anyways, i start off with my own stuff:
amidimon - a terminal midi monitoring app which is very incomplete, but
works good for me. I will finally add the autoconnection feature
somewhere in the spring of this year. I have seen some alternative midi
monitoring apps on the mailing lists in the last year, so maybe i just
dump the project completely instead
rtc_mtc_gen - a small MTC generator app for alsa_seq. I will teach it
drop modes and FPS other than 30
Session - a small gtk2 app to organize collections of programs which
make up a "session". I plan to add LASH support sometime this year. I
think LASH needs a major revisiting though as imho the adoption of it is
rather slow. Maybe it's already too intrusive to applications (i will
start another thread on LASH specifically i think)? Session is still
alpha (planning stage) and if anyone wants to get involved i will be all
ears to suggestions..
The 2.6.x linux audio wiki - i need to definitely update it with newer
information. Sadly spammers have discovered my wiki and i had to disable
public editing access. This is the first thing i'll do after i have
finished some university stuff.
Find my stuff here:
http://www.affenbande.org/~tapas/wiki/index.php?Ware
and here:
http://www.affenbande.org/~tapas/linux-2.6.x-ll.html
Regards,
Florian Schmidt
--
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http://affenbande.org/~tapas/
--
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... unless of course the fish is a bass.
4:32 p.m.
On Fri, 2005-01-07 at 15:40 +0100, Florian Schmidt wrote:
i'm writing this email, because i'm interested
in what plans the
different linux audio developers have for the year 2005 Any new
revolutionary applications planned? Major changes to some of the
existing apps? So let us know. What are your roadmaps for 2005? What are
you guys up to?
I plan to get my patch adding multichannel support to the emu10k1 ALSA
driver merged, then work on a real hwdep mixer app (probably by
extending ld10k1/qlo10k1). As many of you know I'm a big fan of these
cards, they are extremely cheap and (with good driver support) perfect
for an entry level DAW, like a portastudio or something. Anyone who has
used the kX drivers on Windows knows how much potential this device has,
and unfortunately the Linux support is still a joke compared to the kX
driver can do. But, that is all about to change, as the two crucial
features (the DSP patch loader and "kX ASIO", aka the full duplex
multichannel/low latency PCM device) now exist on Linux.
Lee
8 Jan
8 Jan
12:39 a.m.
On Friday 07 January 2005 15.40, Florian Schmidt wrote:
Hi,
i'm writing this email, because i'm interested in what plans the
different linux audio developers have for the year 2005 Any new
revolutionary applications planned?
Nothing revolutionary, perhaps, but I'm thinking about hacking some
sort of hybrid sequencer/code editor for Audiality. Type some script
code, hit record and play some notes and control data right into the
source, pop up a graphical envelope editor and adjust the recorded
data a bit etc... Something like that. I'll just start with a mostly
text based interactive script editor and feel my way from there,
while trying to create stuff with it.
Major changes to some of the
existing apps?
Audiality will have the old "scripting engine" replaced with a new
bytecode VM based one, designed from the ground up for real time
applications. Almost a complete rewrite, but I'm keeping the name for
now: EEL; Extensible Embeddable Language.
(Better ideas? I'd like to get Real Time, Deterministic or something
in there, to indicate that this isn't Yet Another Scripting Language
With Coffee Break Garbage Collection. DEEL? (Deterministic E.E.L.))
EEL is LGPLed and written in portable C. It's rather similar to Lua in
some ways; about the same size, the VM is about as fast (though the
EEL compiler is rather stupid at this point), has a similar set of
types, dynamic typing, automatic memory management etc - but EEL is
designed with low latency real time applications in mind from the
ground up. The syntax is somewhere in between Lua, C and Pascal, I
guess...
For Audiality, this means true real time scripting, as opposed to
off-line-only rendering of waveforms + some configurable real time
objects. The EEL binding will probably take over from the C API as
the primary low level interface. High level stuff like "play this
sound now" will be defined by the content author by means of scripts
that process events from the application.
Where is help needed?
I'm wrapping the EEL scripting engine up for the first release as we
speak. (Hunting down the last few bugs that I think are too annoying
to deserve a life on the other side of my firewall.) Some people
playing around with it a bit wouldn't hurt! :-)
I'm planning on hacking an SDL binding as one of the first add-on
projects. That should make the thing a lot more fun to play with. :-D
//David Olofson - Programmer, Composer, Open Source Advocate
.- Audiality -----------------------------------------------.
| Free/Open Source audio engine for games and multimedia. |
| MIDI, modular synthesis, real time effects, scripting,... |
`-----------------------------------> http://audiality.org -'
--- http://olofson.net --- http://www.reologica.se ---
9:26 a.m.
Il giorno ven, 07-01-2005 alle 15:40 +0100, Florian Schmidt ha scritto:
Hi,
i'm writing this email, because i'm interested in what plans the
different linux audio developers have for the year 2005 Any new
revolutionary applications planned? Major changes to some of the
existing apps? So let us know. What are your roadmaps for 2005? What are
you guys up to?
A small roadmap for 2005:
* hydrogen v1.0
|-> Piano roll
|-> Support of plugin instrument (dssi?vsti?others?)
|-> A nice manual
That's all :)
Ciao
--
comix
10:44 a.m.
On Saturday 08 Jan 2005 13:26, Comix wrote:
|-> Support of plugin instrument
(dssi?vsti?others?)
The dssi-vst bridge plugin is pretty decent now, so I'd suggest that
doing DSSI support is quite a good way to get VSTi support -- at least
for 32-bit Windows VST plugins. That way everyone wins: you get more
plugins supported more easily, DSSI gets more exposure, and dssi-vst
gets more testing and improvements and quirk fixes can be concentrated
in a single place.
Besides VST instrument plugins, dssi-vst is also an easy way to get VST
effects support. You have LADSPA, so if you're adding DSSI GUI support
for synth plugins in any case, then you'll get DSSI effects support
(and VST effects support with GUIs, and DSSI GUIs for LADSPA plugins)
pretty much free because DSSI is compatible with LADSPA for effects.
I'll be happy to provide help and explanation for anyone thinking of
working on a DSSI host -- although there's a lot of documentation and
example code already.
A related thing I'd like to see is a DSSI synth plugin that plays
Hydrogen drumkits. I nearly wrote one a few weeks ago, but, well, time
didn't quite permit...
Chris
1:05 p.m.
Hi,
lördagen den 8 januari 2005 15.44 skrev Chris Cannam:
<...>
A related thing I'd like to see is a DSSI synth
plugin that plays
Hydrogen drumkits. I nearly wrote one a few weeks ago, but, well, time
didn't quite permit...
I wonder how hard it would be to make a "backend" to adapt it to the DSSI
architecture, as an alternative to the jack/alsa backend. That would be an
even better choice no?
Oh, I guess the question goes for any architecture.
/Robert
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12:49 p.m.
Florian Schmidt <mista.tapas(a)gmx.net> writes:
i'm writing this email, because i'm interested
in what plans the
different linux audio developers have for the year 2005 Any new
revolutionary applications planned? Major changes to some of the
existing apps? So let us know. What are your roadmaps for 2005? What are
you guys up to?
JACK 1.0.0!
Most likely JAMin 1.0.0, too.
Who knows what else? There are more fun things to work on than hours
in the day.
Happy 2005 to you all...
--
joq
3:15 p.m.
On fre, 2005-01-07 at 15:40 +0100, Florian Schmidt wrote:
Hi,
i'm writing this email, because i'm interested in what plans the
different linux audio developers have for the year 2005 Any new
revolutionary applications planned? Major changes to some of the
existing apps? So let us know. What are your roadmaps for 2005? What are
you guys up to?
Well, first of all I would like to complete the roadmap for 2004!
:)
Per oscillator:
---------------
Resonance generator (actually phase-modulation of an oscillator that
isn't oscillating)
Some kind of lowpass (so that the resonance-generator isn't blown to
pieces right away)
More basic waweforms
MNM ('Magic Number' Modulation!)
Per channel:
------------
Move from 16bit accumulators to 32bit (Now why didn't I do that at
first?)
Implement expression-pedal
Totally remove DC as well as frequencies below 10hz
Collapse frequencies below 250hz to Mono
+2db/octave filter
Slightly S-shaped dynamic response, perhaps with overdrive/distortion?
Two stereo delay-lines with some kind of panning and feedback-matrix
Per instance
-------------
16x2 => 4 channel simple mixer, again with slightly S-shaped dynamic
response
-2dB/octave filter
Where is help needed?
A little here and a little there, thank you very much :)
MMX is legio, floating point forbidden (except for the jack-interface)
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3:25 p.m.
On Sat, 2005-01-08 at 20:15 +0100, Jens M Andreasen wrote:
On fre, 2005-01-07 at 15:40 +0100, Florian Schmidt
wrote:
Care to tell us which app you're talking about adding all this to? ;-)
Lee
Hi,
i'm writing this email, because i'm interested in what plans the
different linux audio developers have for the year 2005 Any new
revolutionary applications planned? Major changes to some of the
existing apps? So let us know. What are your roadmaps for 2005? What are
you guys up to?
Well, first of all I would like to complete the roadmap for 2004!
:)
Per oscillator:
3:41 p.m.
On lör, 2005-01-08 at 14:25 -0500, Lee Revell wrote:
Care to tell us which app you're talking about
adding all this to? ;-)
Ehrm ... *All* of them!!
Nah, just kidding :)
Try
http://hem.passagen.se/ja_linux
And maybe I should add to the list:
Actually get around to uploading the latest version (with alsa,jack,
revised envelopes, new voice-assignment and various tweeks I can't
remember) on the web ...
Lee
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c[] mvh // Jens M Andreasen
9 Jan
9 Jan
12:26 a.m.
On lör, 2005-01-08 at 20:41 +0100, Jens M Andreasen wrote:
Now updated!
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c[] // Jens M Andreasen
5:09 p.m.
Hi!
On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 03:40:33PM +0100, Florian Schmidt wrote:
i'm writing this email, because i'm interested
in what plans the
different linux audio developers have for the year 2005 Any new
revolutionary applications planned? Major changes to some of the
existing apps? So let us know. What are your roadmaps for 2005? What are
you guys up to?
Well, funnily enough, somewhere on my TODO list is discussing about
and writing an official Roadmap document for BEAST. But it will probably
take some time to get this done, so I here my inoffical 2005 plan:
beast:
- work on the instrument support
- support for GUS Patches (currently working on this)
- add more synthesis networks to the distribution, provide presets
- maybe later add soundfont support (maybe via libfluidsynth)
- integrate more with "the rest of the linux world"
- probably DSSI client/host support
- fix any remaining issues with the PortAudio driver and the
PortAudio blocking JACK support I added
- more (maybe native) JACK support
- more ALSA support, to allow proper (time synchronous) midi loopback
from/to other synths/sequencers and midi output to external devices
- more C++ porting
- fix what annoys musicians most about it
- make music with BEAST to find out what this is
- listen to musicians to see what this is
- maybe provide ports to non-linux systems
other projects:
- support interoperability where possible (for instance: maybe provide
help for polypaudio to become a new de facto soundserver standard)
There is a more elaborate version of my (and Tim Janiks) TODO (my part
of the TODO starts at the line "sfidl:") at
http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/beast/TODO?rev=1.523&view=markup
but that is probably more work than for 2005 only. My plan for 2005 is
to more or less concentrate on BEAST development, as I can provide a new
place for some of my former ideas I had for aRts there.
Cu... Stefan
--
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10 Jan
10 Jan
6:17 p.m.
Florian Schmidt <mista.tapas(a)gmx.net> wrote:
Hi,
i'm writing this email, because i'm interested in what plans the
different linux audio developers have for the year 2005 Any new
revolutionary applications planned? Major changes to some of the
existing apps? So let us know. What are your roadmaps for 2005? What are
you guys up to?
Where is help needed?
Hey, well... I'm currently skiing in the tatras so not doing much coding but....
hopefully in the somewhat near future the first release of smack, my drum synth, will come
out. Currently i've got 808, 909 and some fm drums written but more will be coming and
lots of tuning is still needed. It's using the wondeful om as the engine. Can look
now at http://developer.berlios.de/projects/smack/
I'm aiming for it to be better than having an elektron machinedrum and a bunch of
roland stuff ;-) currently this dream is a touch distant... but slowly getting closer.
Loki
6:54 p.m.
On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 10:17:01PM +0000, Lachlan Davison wrote:
Florian Schmidt <mista.tapas(a)gmx.net> wrote:
Hey Loki,
Everyone on #lad has been wondering where you disappeared to. ;)
-Eric Rz.
(everyone please try to ignore the mess below -- it's not my choice,
really it isn't :-\ -edrz)
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Hi,
i'm writing this email, because i'm interested in what plans the
different linux audio developers have for the year 2005 Any new
revolutionary applications planned? Major changes to some of the
existing apps? So let us know. What are your roadmaps for 2005? What are
you guys up to?
Where is help needed?
Hey, well... I'm currently skiing in the tatras so not
doing much coding but.... hopefully in the somewhat near future the first release of
smack, my drum synth, will come out. Currently i've got 808, 909 and some fm drums
written but more will be coming and lots of tuning is still needed. It's using the
wondeful om as the engine. Can look now at http://developer.berlios.de/projects/smack/
I'm aiming for it to be better than having an elektron machinedrum and a bunch of
roland stuff ;-) currently this dream is a touch distant... but slowly getting closer.
Loki 
11 Jan
11 Jan
1:44 a.m.
On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 at 15:40 +0100, Florian Schmidt wrote:
i'm writing this email, because i'm interested
in what plans the
different linux audio developers have for the year 2005 Any new
revolutionary applications planned? Major changes to some of the
existing apps? So let us know. What are your roadmaps for 2005? What are
you guys up to?
I don't know if it's revolutionary, but I intend to write a DSSI plugin
to compose other DSSI plugins into an organ-like instrument. I'll
probably call it orgel or orgelbauer. Then I intend to make some music
with it. ;-)
Oh, and then start grad school in CS with thesis/dissertation being
in the field of computer music.
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