24 Mar
2012
24 Mar
'12
10:19 p.m.
Lignux systems only have write access to their home
directories, which
the system does not run software from by default.
So Malware can trash your personal documents and steal your identity.....but
the kernel is safe?
Windows isn't a victim of its own popularity,
it's a victim of being
crap.
Yeah, While the average programmer makes 20 errors per 1000 lines-of-code.
Linux programmers, having being on a mission form god, NEVER make such
mistakes, therefore Linux is has no exploitable flaws.
;)
Seriously though, this is *SO* off topic.
Best Regards,
Jeff
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 20:15:23 -0400
> From: David Robillard <d(a)drobilla.net>
> Subject: Re: [LAD] Linux Malware
> To: Louigi Verona <louigi.verona(a)gmail.com>
> Cc: Linux Audio Developers <linux-audio-dev(a)lists.linuxaudio.org>
> Message-ID: <1332548123.6586.15.camel(a)verne.drobilla.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 18:17 +0300, Louigi Verona wrote:
> > Hey guys!
> >
> > This is an Offtopic question, really, but I wanted to ask people I
> > know and people who are developers - what are the reasons there are
> > (almost) no viruses on Linux?
> >
> > The typical argument is that there are not too much users.
>
> Maybe "typical" in Redmond... the typical sane argument is that users
> on
Lignux systems only have write access to their home
directories, which
the system does not run software from by default.
>
> Windows, on the other hand, traditionally had users running with
> complete access to the system. Add to the mix notoriously flaky
> low-quality code, slow moving development, and a core system built from
> numerous layers of piled legacy crap, and it'd be shocking if exploits
> *didn't* run rampant.
>
> Anyone claiming that any system would have been as badly affected in
> Windows' situation has no idea what they're talking about. The system
> essentially didn't have any form of security whatsoever. The security
> model wasn't flawed, it *wasn't there*. You didn't have to exploit the
> system to get viruses and malware on it, you just had to get the user
> to
> run something.
>
Windows isn't a victim of its own popularity,
it's a victim of being
crap.
>
> -dr
>
24 Mar
24 Mar
10:37 p.m.
New subject: Linux Malware
On 03/25/2012 08:19 AM, Jeff McClintock wrote:
Yeah, While the average programmer makes 20 errors per
1000 lines-of-code.
Linux programmers, having being on a mission form god, NEVER make such
mistakes, therefore Linux is has no exploitable flaws.
It's a reality that
Linux (and it's programmers) have been at the
forefront of computer software design and implementation; and that will
continue.
Microsoft have never been.
g.
11:16 p.m.
New subject: Linux Malware
On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Geoff Beasley
<geoff(a)laughingboyrecords.com> wrote:
It's a reality that Linux (and it's
programmers) have been at the forefront
of computer software design and implementation; and that will continue.
Microsoft have never been.
this isn't actually true. microsoft research has done some pretty
innovative stuff. the original NT kernel group headed by dave cutler
(who used to work at dec and basically bought a decent chunk of the
VMS team with him) did some quite creative things with kernel design.
and even the justifiably maligned IE did bring a few features to web
browsers that are now standard. even though CORBA attempted to do
"object management" before MS, its design never really took off,
whereas MS's "DOM" model has been quite successful when viewed through
certain lenses.
what is true is that microsoft innovations rarely spread outside of
microsoft. not never, just rarely.
25 Mar
25 Mar
1:29 p.m.
New subject: Linux Malware
On Saturday 24 March 2012, Paul Davis wrote:
even though CORBA attempted to do
"object management" before MS, its design never really took off,
whereas MS's "DOM" model has been quite successful when viewed through
certain lenses.
DOM? Document Object Model? like in HTML and XML documents processing?
I guess you mean COM, aka OLE2, == Component Object Model.
Let me add D-Bus to the soup of acronyms:
http://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/dbus-faq.html#components
Regards,
Pedro
11:06 a.m.
New subject: Linux Malware
On 24/03/12 21:19, Jeff McClintock wrote:
The malware has to be able to run. Simply writing it to disk is not
sufficient.
--
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Lignux systems
only have write access to their home directories, which
the system does not run software from by default.
So Malware can trash your personal documents and steal your identity.....but
the kernel is safe?
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