30 Jun
2011
30 Jun
'11
11:47 p.m.
Hi,
It is very promising that devs like Torben, Paul Davis, Rui and David
Robillard (to name a few), are 'backing up' Jack Session and that the
Jack Session API is in the Jack API. This will give the community a very
good chance that many apps will get JackSession support soon (or later).
However, it's still reasonable to expect that not all LAD applications
are going to be patched with JackSession support.
In other words, there are and will be apps which might be useful (for
one or more of us) to use in a session but which won't have JackSession
(JS) support. From a users perspective, it would be very useful to be
able to use that application (without JS support) in a session in some
way nevertheless.
At the moment one Session Manager (SM), Pyjacksm (Qjackctl will follow
soon, and also Patchage I expect) makes this possible by manually adding
'infra clients' to a configuration file, .pyjacksmrc. See example below.
Infra clients are designed for applications without a state, like a2j.
But it is also possible to use apps without JS support as infra client.
Amsynth is an application without JS support and in this way I am able
to load amsynth, with project A. The SM makes sure that Amsynth is
started and that the Jack connections are restored (that's the only
thing the SM can do for you for apps without JS support). But I don't
want to use Amsynth with Project A always (Session 1). I might be
working on a totally different project and want to make a session for
that also (Session 2). This time I want to load amsynth as: amsynth -b
/home/user/projectB.amSynth.presets (I don't use Session 1 and 2
together in this example).
To be able to load Session 2, I have to edit my .pyjacksmrc file or make
symlinks.
*Feature request*: It would be nice if the SM could provide me a way to
load a different configuration file.
For example: JackSessionManagerX --load configurationfileSession2
Thanks in advance,
\r
.pyjacksmrc:
[DEFAULT]
sessiondir = ~/linuxaudio/JackSession
[infra]
a2j = a2jmidid -e
amsynth = amsynth -b /home/user/projectA.amSynth.presets
configurationfileSession2:
[DEFAULT]
sessiondir = ~/linuxaudio/JackSession
[infra]
a2j = a2jmidid -e
amsynth = amsynth -b /home/user/projectA.amSynth.presets
30 Jun
30 Jun
11:50 p.m.
On 06/30/2011 11:47 PM, rosea grammostola wrote:
Hi,
It is very promising that devs like Torben, Paul Davis, Rui and David
Robillard (to name a few), are 'backing up' Jack Session and that the
Jack Session API is in the Jack API. This will give the community a
very good chance that many apps will get JackSession support soon (or
later).
However, it's still reasonable to expect that not all LAD applications
are going to be patched with JackSession support.
In other words, there are and will be apps which might be useful (for
one or more of us) to use in a session but which won't have
JackSession (JS) support. From a users perspective, it would be very
useful to be able to use that application (without JS support) in a
session in some way nevertheless.
At the moment one Session Manager (SM), Pyjacksm (Qjackctl will follow
soon, and also Patchage I expect) makes this possible by manually
adding 'infra clients' to a configuration file, .pyjacksmrc. See
example below. Infra clients are designed for applications without a
state, like a2j. But it is also possible to use apps without JS
support as infra client.
Amsynth is an application without JS support and in this way I am able
to load amsynth, with project A. The SM makes sure that Amsynth is
started and that the Jack connections are restored (that's the only
thing the SM can do for you for apps without JS support). But I don't
want to use Amsynth with Project A always (Session 1). I might be
working on a totally different project and want to make a session for
that also (Session 2). This time I want to load amsynth as: amsynth -b
/home/user/projectB.amSynth.presets (I don't use Session 1 and 2
together in this example).
To be able to load Session 2, I have to edit my .pyjacksmrc file or
make symlinks.
*Feature request*: It would be nice if the SM could provide me a way
to load a different configuration file.
For example: JackSessionManagerX --load configurationfileSession2
Thanks in advance,
\r
.pyjacksmrc:
[DEFAULT]
sessiondir = ~/linuxaudio/JackSession
[infra]
a2j = a2jmidid -e
amsynth = amsynth -b /home/user/projectA.amSynth.presets
configurationfileSession2:
[DEFAULT]
sessiondir = ~/linuxaudio/JackSession
[infra]
a2j = a2jmidid -e
amsynth = amsynth -b /home/user/projectB.amSynth.presets
^
typo.
1 Jul
1 Jul
12:51 p.m.
On 06/30/2011 11:50 PM, rosea grammostola wrote:
On 06/30/2011 11:47 PM, rosea grammostola wrote:
I think I have mentioned it before somewhere, but another good feature
for a Session Manager would be the possibility to start (and / or use?)
a session via the command line.
Like: qjackctl --session session1.session
or something.
\r
Hi,
It is very promising that devs like Torben, Paul Davis, Rui and David
Robillard (to name a few), are 'backing up' Jack Session and that the
Jack Session API is in the Jack API. This will give the community a
very good chance that many apps will get JackSession support soon (or
later).
However, it's still reasonable to expect that not all LAD
applications are going to be patched with JackSession support.
In other words, there are and will be apps which might be useful (for
one or more of us) to use in a session but which won't have
JackSession (JS) support. From a users perspective, it would be very
useful to be able to use that application (without JS support) in a
session in some way nevertheless.
At the moment one Session Manager (SM), Pyjacksm (Qjackctl will
follow soon, and also Patchage I expect) makes this possible by
manually adding 'infra clients' to a configuration file, .pyjacksmrc.
See example below. Infra clients are designed for applications
without a state, like a2j. But it is also possible to use apps
without JS support as infra client.
Amsynth is an application without JS support and in this way I am
able to load amsynth, with project A. The SM makes sure that Amsynth
is started and that the Jack connections are restored (that's the
only thing the SM can do for you for apps without JS support). But I
don't want to use Amsynth with Project A always (Session 1). I might
be working on a totally different project and want to make a session
for that also (Session 2). This time I want to load amsynth as:
amsynth -b /home/user/projectB.amSynth.presets (I don't use Session 1
and 2 together in this example).
To be able to load Session 2, I have to edit my .pyjacksmrc file or
make symlinks.
*Feature request*: It would be nice if the SM could provide me a way
to load a different configuration file.
For example: JackSessionManagerX --load configurationfileSession2
Thanks in advance,
\r
6 Jul
6 Jul
6:43 p.m.
On 07/01/2011 12:51 PM, rosea grammostola wrote:
On 06/30/2011 11:50 PM, rosea grammostola wrote:
In Qjackctl, the save button in the session window, works as 'save as'
atm. A real 'save' button would be nice (saves time).
Thanks in advance,
\r
On 06/30/2011 11:47 PM, rosea grammostola wrote:
I think I have mentioned it before somewhere, but another good feature
for a Session Manager would be the possibility to start (and / or
use?) a session via the command line.
Like: qjackctl --session session1.session
or something. Hi,
It is very promising that devs like Torben, Paul Davis, Rui and
David Robillard (to name a few), are 'backing up' Jack Session and
that the Jack Session API is in the Jack API. This will give the
community a very good chance that many apps will get JackSession
support soon (or later).
However, it's still reasonable to expect that not all LAD
applications are going to be patched with JackSession support.
In other words, there are and will be apps which might be useful
(for one or more of us) to use in a session but which won't have
JackSession (JS) support. From a users perspective, it would be very
useful to be able to use that application (without JS support) in a
session in some way nevertheless.
At the moment one Session Manager (SM), Pyjacksm (Qjackctl will
follow soon, and also Patchage I expect) makes this possible by
manually adding 'infra clients' to a configuration file,
.pyjacksmrc. See example below. Infra clients are designed for
applications without a state, like a2j. But it is also possible to
use apps without JS support as infra client.
Amsynth is an application without JS support and in this way I am
able to load amsynth, with project A. The SM makes sure that Amsynth
is started and that the Jack connections are restored (that's the
only thing the SM can do for you for apps without JS support). But I
don't want to use Amsynth with Project A always (Session 1). I might
be working on a totally different project and want to make a session
for that also (Session 2). This time I want to load amsynth as:
amsynth -b /home/user/projectB.amSynth.presets (I don't use Session
1 and 2 together in this example).
To be able to load Session 2, I have to edit my .pyjacksmrc file or
make symlinks.
*Feature request*: It would be nice if the SM could provide me a way
to load a different configuration file.
For example: JackSessionManagerX --load configurationfileSession2
Thanks in advance,
\r
1 Jul
1 Jul
midnight
On 06/30/2011 11:47 PM, rosea grammostola wrote:
Amsynth is an application without JS support and in
this way I am able
to load amsynth, with project A.
amSynth has JS support: http://code.google.com/p/amsynth/source/detail?r=400
The current 1.3-beta2 tarball contains this revision afaik.
Best,
Jeremy
12:07 a.m.
On 07/01/2011 12:00 AM, Jeremy Jongepier wrote:
On 06/30/2011 11:47 PM, rosea grammostola wrote:
Ah shoot(!), then I
have to change my whole Amsynth example! :/
Serious now... good news! Who's next, PHASEX? :)
\r
Amsynth is an application without JS support and
in this way I am able
to load amsynth, with project A.
amSynth has JS support:
http://code.google.com/p/amsynth/source/detail?r=400
The current 1.3-beta2 tarball contains this revision afaik.
12:57 p.m.
On 07/01/2011 12:07 AM, rosea grammostola wrote:
Who's next, PHASEX? :)
Very unlikely. The original PHASEX project has been abandoned, even the
sysex.net site has completely vanished. There is a so-called PHASEX
development branch but it hasn't seen any updates since December 2010.
The dev did mention a possible Milestone 2 release in April but no
activity after that date.
Best,
Jeremy
1:32 p.m.
On 07/01/2011 12:57 PM, Jeremy Jongepier wrote:
On 07/01/2011 12:07 AM, rosea grammostola wrote:
Hmm PHASEX deserves the same kind of love Zynaddsubfx
gets these days
via Yoshimi imho. It's one of the few quality synths on Linux. Maybe a
generous hacker will provide a patch for JS support in PHASEX :)
\r
https://github.com/disabled/phasex-dev
Who's next, PHASEX? :)
Very unlikely.
The original PHASEX project has been abandoned, even the
sysex.net site has completely vanished. There is a so-called PHASEX
development branch but it hasn't seen any updates since December 2010.
The dev did mention a possible Milestone 2 release in April but no
activity after that date. 
2 Jul
2 Jul
12:52 a.m.
2011/7/1 rosea grammostola <rosea.grammostola(a)gmail.com>om>:
Hmm PHASEX deserves the same kind of love Zynaddsubfx gets these days via
Yoshimi imho. It's one of the few quality synths on Linux. Maybe a generous
hacker will provide a patch for JS support in PHASEX :)
Hi
Following your call, rosea, I added JackSession support to phasex !
The concept is still very new to me, but the result is promising at least.
It currently doesn't restore the connections made,
not sure why, maybe I'm doing anything wrong with the uuid ??
I can send the sources to you, or whoever requires it,
in order to upload to an appropriate location.
HINT: In the new qjackctl, the session-SAVE-dialog has a button
labled "Open".
--
E.R.
11:07 a.m.
New subject: PHASEX (was: Jack Session Manager: feature request)
On 07/02/2011 12:52 AM, Emanuel Rumpf wrote:
2011/7/1 rosea
grammostola<rosea.grammostola(a)gmail.com>om>:
Thanks
a lot man!
Hmm PHASEX deserves the same kind of love
Zynaddsubfx gets these days via
Yoshimi imho. It's one of the few quality synths on Linux. Maybe a generous
hacker will provide a patch for JS support in PHASEX :)
Hi
Following your call, rosea, I added JackSession support to phasex !
The concept is still very new to me, but the result is promising at least. It currently doesn't restore the connections
made,
not sure why, maybe I'm doing anything wrong with the uuid ??
I am sure Torben
can help you with that.
I can send the sources to you, or whoever requires it,
in order to upload to an appropriate location.
Yeah, maybe the source can be
uploaded to github or something, like
'phasex-dev' is now (*).
HINT: In the new qjackctl, the session-SAVE-dialog has a button
labled "Open".
I'll have a look.
Thanks again.
\r
* https://github.com/disabled/phasex-dev
11:28 a.m.
New subject: PHASEX
On 07/02/2011 11:06 AM, rosea grammostola wrote:
On 07/02/2011 12:52 AM, Emanuel Rumpf wrote:
https://github.com/grammo/phasex
git://github.com/grammo/phasex.git
git@github.com:grammo/phasex.git
2011/7/1 rosea
grammostola<rosea.grammostola(a)gmail.com>om>:
Thanks a lot man!
Hmm PHASEX deserves the same kind of love
Zynaddsubfx gets these
days via
Yoshimi imho. It's one of the few quality synths on Linux. Maybe a
generous
hacker will provide a patch for JS support in PHASEX :)
Hi
Following your call, rosea, I added JackSession support to phasex !
The concept is still very new to me, but the result is promising at
least. It currently doesn't restore the connections
made,
not sure why, maybe I'm doing anything wrong with the uuid ??
I am sure Torben
can help you with that.
I can send the sources to you, or whoever requires it,
in order to upload to an appropriate location.
Yeah, maybe the source can be
uploaded to github or something, like
'phasex-dev' is now (*).
HINT: In the new qjackctl, the session-SAVE-dialog has a button
labled "Open".
I'll have a look.
Thanks again.
\r
* https://github.com/disabled/phasex-dev
11:50 a.m.
New subject: PHASEX
On 07/02/2011 11:28 AM, rosea grammostola wrote:
https://github.com/grammo/phasex
git://github.com/grammo/phasex.git
git@github.com:grammo/phasex.git
On 07/02/2011 11:06 AM, rosea grammostola wrote:
> On 07/02/2011 12:52 AM, Emanuel Rumpf wrote:
>> 2011/7/1 rosea grammostola<rosea.grammostola(a)gmail.com>om>:
>>> Hmm PHASEX deserves the same kind of love Zynaddsubfx gets these
>>> days via
>>> Yoshimi imho. It's one of the few quality synths on Linux. Maybe a
>>> generous
>>> hacker will provide a patch for JS support in PHASEX :)
>>>
>> Hi
>> Following your call, rosea, I added JackSession support to phasex !
>> The concept is still very new to me, but the result is promising at
>> least.
> Thanks a lot man!
>> It currently doesn't restore the connections made,
>> not sure why, maybe I'm doing anything wrong with the uuid ??
> I am sure Torben can help you with that.
It seems to work good here. You have to disable JACK autoconnect in
PHASEX and then the connections seems to work.
If I choose patch 6 in PHASEX, save the session, reload the session ->
patch 6 is reloaded but it is called patch 0 instead (it shows up as
patch 6 also). Not sure if this is the expected behavior from PHASEX.
I can send the sources to you, or whoever requires it,
in order to upload to an appropriate location.
Yeah, maybe the source can be
uploaded to github or something, like
'phasex-dev' is now (*).
HINT: In the new qjackctl, the session-SAVE-dialog has a button
labled "Open".
I'll have a look.
Thanks again.
\r
* https://github.com/disabled/phasex-dev
12:07 p.m.
New subject: JACK autoconnect and JackSession (was: PHASEX)
On 07/02/2011 11:50 AM, rosea grammostola wrote:
On 07/02/2011 11:28 AM, rosea grammostola wrote:
Just a note. AFAIK applications which make connections automatically
with JACK are problematic for JackSession (also for Ladish iirc).
It isn't bad to have JACK autoconnect in a application (could be handy),
but there should be an option to disable it. Like it's possible in
PHASEX and also in StretchPlayer (svn) for example.
\r
On 07/02/2011 11:06 AM, rosea grammostola wrote:
> On 07/02/2011 12:52 AM, Emanuel Rumpf wrote:
>> 2011/7/1 rosea grammostola<rosea.grammostola(a)gmail.com>om>:
>>> Hmm PHASEX deserves the same kind of love Zynaddsubfx gets these
>>> days via
>>> Yoshimi imho. It's one of the few quality synths on Linux. Maybe a
>>> generous
>>> hacker will provide a patch for JS support in PHASEX :)
>>>
>> Hi
>> Following your call, rosea, I added JackSession support to phasex !
>> The concept is still very new to me, but the result is promising
>> at least.
> Thanks a lot man!
>> It currently doesn't restore the connections made,
>> not sure why, maybe I'm doing anything wrong with the uuid ??
> I am sure Torben can help you with that.
It seems to work good here. You have to disable JACK autoconnect in
PHASEX and then the connections seems to work. 
8:09 p.m.
New subject: [Jack-Devel] JACK autoconnect and JackSession (was: PHASEX)
On Sat, Jul 02, 2011 at 12:07:33PM +0200, rosea grammostola wrote:
On 07/02/2011 11:50 AM, rosea grammostola wrote:
a jack session client is not supposed to do any connections itself.
if a flag to disable it already exist, just include this flag in the
jack-session reply.
--
torben Hohn
On 07/02/2011 11:28 AM, rosea grammostola wrote:
Just a note. AFAIK applications which make connections automatically
with JACK are problematic for JackSession (also for Ladish iirc).
It isn't bad to have JACK autoconnect in a application (could be
handy), but there should be an option to disable it. Like it's
possible in PHASEX and also in StretchPlayer (svn) for example. On 07/02/2011 11:06 AM, rosea grammostola wrote:
>On 07/02/2011 12:52 AM, Emanuel Rumpf wrote:
>>2011/7/1 rosea grammostola<rosea.grammostola(a)gmail.com>om>:
>>>Hmm PHASEX deserves the same kind of love Zynaddsubfx gets
>>>these days via
>>>Yoshimi imho. It's one of the few quality synths on Linux.
>>>Maybe a generous
>>>hacker will provide a patch for JS support in PHASEX :)
>>>
>>Hi
>>Following your call, rosea, I added JackSession support to phasex !
>>The concept is still very new to me, but the result is
>>promising at least.
>Thanks a lot man!
>>It currently doesn't restore the connections made,
>>not sure why, maybe I'm doing anything wrong with the uuid ??
>I am sure Torben can help you with that.
It seems to work good here. You have to disable JACK autoconnect
in PHASEX and then the connections seems to work.
8:50 p.m.
New subject: [Jack-Devel] JACK autoconnect and JackSession
On 07/02/2011 08:09 PM, torbenh wrote:
On Sat, Jul 02, 2011 at 12:07:33PM +0200, rosea
grammostola wrote:
Maybe good to add in the dev WIKI page for JackSession.
\r
On 07/02/2011 11:50 AM, rosea grammostola wrote:
a jack session
client is not supposed to do any connections itself.
if a flag to disable it already exist, just include this flag in the
jack-session reply.
On 07/02/2011 11:28 AM, rosea grammostola wrote:
Just a note. AFAIK applications
which make connections automatically
with JACK are problematic for JackSession (also for Ladish iirc).
It isn't bad to have JACK autoconnect in a application (could be
handy), but there should be an option to disable it. Like it's
possible in PHASEX and also in StretchPlayer (svn) for example. On 07/02/2011 11:06 AM, rosea grammostola wrote:
> On 07/02/2011 12:52 AM, Emanuel Rumpf wrote:
>> 2011/7/1 rosea grammostola<rosea.grammostola(a)gmail.com>om>:
>>> Hmm PHASEX deserves the same kind of love Zynaddsubfx gets
>>> these days via
>>> Yoshimi imho. It's one of the few quality synths on Linux.
>>> Maybe a generous
>>> hacker will provide a patch for JS support in PHASEX :)
>>>
>> Hi
>> Following your call, rosea, I added JackSession support to phasex !
>> The concept is still very new to me, but the result is
>> promising at least.
> Thanks a lot man!
>> It currently doesn't restore the connections made,
>> not sure why, maybe I'm doing anything wrong with the uuid ??
> I am sure Torben can help you with that.
It seems to work good here. You have
to disable JACK autoconnect
in PHASEX and then the connections seems to work.
7:25 p.m.
New subject: PHASEX
2011/7/2 rosea grammostola <rosea.grammostola(a)gmail.com>om>:
It seems to work good here. You have to disable JACK autoconnect in PHASEX
and then the connections seems to work.
Here they don't.
And phasex requires much time to start.
How does jack-session know, when an application is ready for creating
connections ?
Suggestions:
For larger gui-intense applications (which take time to start),
SaveAndQuit should rather be SaveAndClose(current Documents).
The some for single-instance applications.
Else, it may take too much time restarting a whole setup.
jack_session_reply( client, ev );
could additionally inform jack, whether it is using single instance mode.
ev->app_in_single_instance_mode = true;
and provide a method to load patches, without closing
the application:
int my_load_setup( void* data, void* event );
ev->load_setup = my_load_setup;
This way, jack-session would be able to distinguish, whether
to call ev->load_setup() or start the app with ev->command_line
This load command would tell single_inst. apps to load a document
and start multi_inst. apps with the path.
An additional close_session command would be good (in qjackctl).
This would close the documents of single_instance applications
and quit multi_instance applications (but not jackd and pulse and patchage).
--
E.R.
3 Jul
3 Jul
12:12 p.m.
New subject: PHASEX (jacksession)
On 07/02/2011 07:25 PM, Emanuel Rumpf wrote:
2011/7/2 rosea
grammostola<rosea.grammostola(a)gmail.com>om>:
My audio connections seems to work. My midi connections (via a2j) are
not restored though. The midi connections of Yoshimi are restored, but
it has native JACK MIDI support. It seems to be possible to use at least
two instances of PHASEX in a session. Parameters seems to get restored,
all though my BPM setting was not restored. Maybe some more experienced
PHASEX users could test this and report back.
It seems to work good here. You have to disable
JACK autoconnect in PHASEX
and then the connections seems to work.
Here they don't.
And phasex requires much time to start.
How does jack-session know, when an application is ready for creating
connections ? Suggestions:
For larger gui-intense applications (which take time to start),
SaveAndQuit should rather be SaveAndClose(current Documents).
The some for single-instance applications.
Else, it may take too much time restarting a whole setup.
jack_session_reply( client, ev );
could additionally inform jack, whether it is using single instance mode.
ev->app_in_single_instance_mode = true;
and provide a method to load patches, without closing
the application:
int my_load_setup( void* data, void* event );
ev->load_setup = my_load_setup;
This way, jack-session would be able to distinguish, whether
to call ev->load_setup() or start the app with ev->command_line
This load command would tell single_inst. apps to load a document
and start multi_inst. apps with the path.
An additional close_session command would be good (in qjackctl).
This would close the documents of single_instance applications
and quit multi_instance applications (but not jackd and pulse and patchage).
7:28 p.m.
New subject: PHASEX (jacksession)
Further jack-session difficulties:
- some applications use a full path as jack-sessions command_line ==>
not platform independent, not at all
(amSynth vs. /usr/bin/amSynth )
- most use single character parameters in the command_line ==> bad:
-P and -p is the same on some platforms
- the so called uuid actually is NO uuid (as defined in RFC 4122) ==>
it's just a simple session-id and should be renamed
(a uuid would look like this: 6a3f88dc-433e-4a58-ab3e-3551aa14b00b
use uuidgen to generate one)
- in the wiki example code, gtk_main_quit(); is called before
jack_session_event_free( ev );
it appears, that jack_session_event_free() will never be called ?
- amSynth has a bug: The session-start command_line is set to NULL, if
using SaveAndQuit, but works with just Save (without Quit)
Maybe there should be a "best practice" section in the jack-session
wiki, pointing out these issues...
2011/7/3 rosea grammostola <rosea.grammostola(a)gmail.com>om>:
On 07/02/2011 07:25 PM, Emanuel Rumpf wrote:
>
How does jack-session know the time, where an application is ready for
creating (establishing)
connections ?
My audio connections seems to work. My midi
connections (via a2j) are not
restored though.
The midi connections of Yoshimi are restored, but it has native JACK MIDI support.
What are the pre-conditions for jack-session, to restore midi connections ?
Does it work with native jack-midi only ?
regarding phasex (r2011-07-02):
Likely BPM is handled as 'generic option' that is patch independent
and thus not saved with / in the patch file.
I suppose, one has to add additional code to store that info.
Also the whole Bank is not stored currently, just the currently active patch.
>
> Suggestions:
> For larger gui-intense applications (which take time to start),
> SaveAndQuit should rather be SaveAndClose(current Documents).
> The some for single-instance applications.
> Else, it may take too much time restarting a whole setup.
>
> jack_session_reply( client, ev );
> could additionally inform jack, whether it is using single instance mode.
> ev->app_in_single_instance_mode = true;
>
> and provide a method to load patches, without closing
> the application:
> int my_load_setup( void* data, void* event );
> ev->load_setup = my_load_setup;
>
> This way, jack-session would be able to distinguish, whether
> to call ev->load_setup() or start the app with ev->command_line
> This load command would tell single_inst. apps to load a document
> and start multi_inst. apps with the path.
>
> An additional close_session command would be good (in qjackctl).
> This would close the documents of single_instance applications
> and quit multi_instance applications (but not jackd and pulse and
> patchage).
>
>
--
E.R.
7:35 p.m.
New subject: PHASEX (jacksession)
On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Emanuel Rumpf <xbran(a)web.de> wrote:
- in the wiki example code, gtk_main_quit(); is
called before
jack_session_event_free( ev );
it appears, that jack_session_event_free() will never be called ?
qtk_main_quit() has zero effect until control is returned to the main
event loop.
7 Jul
7 Jul
11:20 a.m.
New subject: PHASEX (jacksession)
On 07/02/2011 07:25 PM, Emanuel Rumpf wrote:
2011/7/2 rosea
grammostola<rosea.grammostola(a)gmail.com>om>:
Tested with Phasex and jack-rack (jackd1).
Connections seems to be
restored here (all though at one occasion I used the 'recent' option in
qjackctl - session, and the connections didn't restore, another test
with 'recent' seems to work though).
The problem with a2jmidid I reported a while ago, was because qjackctl
doesn't support infra clients atm I think.
Regards,
\r
It seems to work good here. You have to disable
JACK autoconnect in PHASEX
and then the connections seems to work.
Here they don't.
And phasex requires much time to start. How does jack-session know, when an application is
ready for creating
connections ?
Suggestions:
For larger gui-intense applications (which take time to start),
SaveAndQuit should rather be SaveAndClose(current Documents).
The some for single-instance applications.
Else, it may take too much time restarting a whole setup.
jack_session_reply( client, ev );
could additionally inform jack, whether it is using single instance mode.
ev->app_in_single_instance_mode = true;
and provide a method to load patches, without closing
the application:
int my_load_setup( void* data, void* event );
ev->load_setup = my_load_setup;
This way, jack-session would be able to distinguish, whether
to call ev->load_setup() or start the app with ev->command_line
This load command would tell single_inst. apps to load a document
and start multi_inst. apps with the path.
An additional close_session command would be good (in qjackctl).
This would close the documents of single_instance applications
and quit multi_instance applications (but not jackd and pulse and patchage).
11:54 a.m.
New subject: PHASEX (jacksession)
On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 11:20:32 +0200, rosea grammostola
<rosea.grammostola(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 07/02/2011 07:25 PM, Emanuel Rumpf wrote:
you could try the "refresh" button instead...
as said above, is seems phasex takes a lot of time to start and then
stabilize its jack client ports for connections, so that it might not be
available promptly after qjackctl session manager launches it. although
qjackctl does wait a little while (+200ms) before actually restoring
connections but phasex might take more than longer... :)
there's where "refresh" button comes into play: to refresh/restore all
the previously failed connections, signaled with some red/white cross
tiny icons on qjackctl session tree-list view. got that?
2011/7/2 rosea
grammostola<rosea.grammostola(a)gmail.com>om>:
Tested with Phasex and jack-rack (jackd1).
Connections seems to be
restored here (all though at one occasion I used the 'recent' option
in qjackctl - session, and the connections didn't restore, another
test with 'recent' seems to work though).
It seems to work good here. You have to disable
JACK autoconnect
in PHASEX
and then the connections seems to work.
Here they don't.
And phasex requires much time to start. The problem with a2jmidid I reported a while ago, was
because
qjackctl doesn't support infra clients atm I think.
meanwhile you could get away with a2jmidid as a
real-permanent-infrastructural-client (!) that is always started right
after jackd, being the usual candidate to be included in a
qjackctl/setup post-startup script.
cheers
--
rncbc aka Rui Nuno Capela
rncbc(a)rncbc.org
9 Jul
9 Jul
3 p.m.
New subject: PHASEX (jacksession)
On 07/07/2011 11:20 AM, rosea grammostola wrote:
On 07/02/2011 07:25 PM, Emanuel Rumpf wrote:
What's next? Is JackSession in
PHASEX ready now? Would be nice if the
Linuxaudio users could use this feature and if it hits the different
distros.
Regards,
\r
2011/7/2 rosea
grammostola<rosea.grammostola(a)gmail.com>om>:
Tested with Phasex and jack-rack (jackd1).
Connections seems to be
restored here (all though at one occasion I used the 'recent' option
in qjackctl - session, and the connections didn't restore, another
test with 'recent' seems to work though).
The problem with a2jmidid I reported a while ago, was because qjackctl
doesn't support infra clients atm I think. It seems to work good here. You have to disable
JACK autoconnect in
PHASEX
and then the connections seems to work.
Here they don't.
And phasex requires much time to start.
3:19 p.m.
2011/7/2 rosea grammostola <rosea.grammostola(a)gmail.com>om>:
On 07/02/2011 12:52 AM, Emanuel Rumpf wrote:
Yes, sorry, the message doesn't really concern you, but the author of
qjackctl. (Rui Nuno Capela)
The Button has a wrong caption, that's all.
--
E.R.
HINT: In the new qjackctl, the session-SAVE-dialog has a button
labled "Open".
Sorry, I don't see what you mean. It is called Open or something else...?
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