Fair is fair. We should call him GNU/Jesus. On Wed, 2002-09-25 at 14:05, mawali(a)news.icns.com wrote: -- (jfm3 2838 BCBA 93BA 3058 ED95 A42C 37DB 66D1 B43C 9FD0)

[...] I was just able to resist this time... I think the question as to whether the "I wish to know that my work will be used to praise the name of Jesus" is part of the license is still valid. The software would be non-free if it is, otherwise it would just be bad taste IMHO. --martijn

guenter geiger wrote: <rant> I quote : "If you want to use this program to make music that is against God and Jesus (like HeavyMetal, NewAge,..) STOP and think that you'll be judged someday by God Himself for causing many people to loose the Salvation and go to hell. This will happen, no matter if you'll use my program, else's program or anything else against Jesus's name. I wish to know that my work will be used to praise the name of Jesus." Yawn, heavy sigh. I couldn't give a damn what he likes or doesn't like about my personal beliefs. His software is licensed under the GPL. Whatever else he has to say is irrelevant in light of that license. Nowhere in that passage does he explicitly DENY your right to use it as you see fit, he simply has an opinion/belief about what will happen if you use it to make certain kinds of music. A recommendation or preference is NOT the same thing as a prohibition or restriction. He is not demanding anything from anyone. He has clearly stated a preference. He has an opinion about what will happen if you use his software for some purpose other than what HE wants it used for, but he does NOT deny your right to go ahead and use it to do any !@#$%ing thing you want with it. </rant> Sorry for wasting the bandwidth... Best regards, == Dave Phillips The Book Of Linux Music & Sound at http://www.nostarch.com/lms.htm The Linux Soundapps Site at http://linux-sound.org Currently listening to: Harold Budd & Brian Eno, "First Light"

Hi, guenter geiger hat gesagt: // guenter geiger wrote: But in this case, the license is verbatim GPL v.2 and the controversial part is just a wish on the authour's website, not an obligation or a restriction in any way, as far as I read and understand. So the license of ZynAddSubFX marks it clearly as free software. It's just, that the author of this software doesn't like it if music against god is made with his or with any other software: "This will happen, no matter if you'll use my program, else's program or anything else against Jesus's name." One could discuss this a lot, and it sure is quite unusual, but it has nothing to do with the open-source'ness or the technical merits of his software, if it's not part of the license, and IMO it isn't. ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__