30 Jan
2008
30 Jan
'08
6:27 p.m.
Dave Robillard:
On Wed, 2008-01-30 at 15:08 +0100, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
Yes, exactly. And by default, the auto-connect ports are
the same as the physical ones. Those with special setups
are also the ones who must make special configurations.
- My usual grunge: unless you want me
accidentally
destroy some very expensive equipment which is not
even mine, the generated JACK apps
MUST NOT AUTOCONNECT --- NEVER --- TO ANYTHING.
Hear hear. This setting really must be moved into Jack. Let the user
specify the auto-connect ports (or none). 
31 Jan
31 Jan
11:51 a.m.
New subject: Prototyping algorithms and ideas
On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 11:26:39PM +0100, Kjetil S. Matheussen wrote:
Yes, exactly. And by default, the auto-connect ports
are
the same as the physical ones. Those with special setups
are also the ones who must make special configurations.
The ones I complain about are those that don't even
allow you to configure them permanently for no
autoconnect.
One bad example, sadly, is Ardour. Even if I remove
the auditioner ports and save the session they come
back and autoconnect to my power amps (*) next time
the session is loaded. And it's all too easy to
activate the auditioner - and accidental double
mouse click instead of single one is all that's
required.
(*) Which are in a rack in a separate room. The
connection is digital. The gain controls on the
amps need a screwdriver to adjust them. I'm not
going to run to the racks, and turn down 16
level in once case, 176 in the other, to be on
the safe side each time a start an app (and after
that I'd have to recalibrate them again...).
Ciao,
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1:40 p.m.
New subject: Prototyping algorithms and ideas
Donnerstag, 31. Januar 2008 Fons Adriaensen:
One bad example, sadly, is Ardour. Even if I remove
the auditioner ports and save the session they come
back and autoconnect to my power amps (*) next time
the session is loaded.
Seems to be an assumption buglet. Dangerous indeed.
qjackctl's patchbay lets you work around these surprises:
Define a patchbay profile that has your physical sinks marked as
exclusive. No more clients autoconnect.
Connect your central jack mixer socket to that exclusive physical
socket.
Add more sockets for ardour, alsaplayer, mplayer ... and connect all
those to your central mixer or whatever mechanism you have in place.
Patchbay "documentation" is on http://www.rncbc.org/drupal/node/19
I think the concept is pretty neat and maybe the frugality of this
very documentation has prevented (audio) distros from embracing it
more. Throw in oss bridging, a set of default audio applications as
mixer channels and as sockets in the patchbay ... The one central
audio mixer people are longing for? It's right there.
going to run to the racks, and turn down 16
level in once case, 176 in the other, to be on
192 amp lines? What are you up to :)
Wolfgang
2:01 p.m.
New subject: Prototyping algorithms and ideas
Am Donnerstag, 31. Januar 2008 schrieb Wolfgang Woehl:
Donnerstag, 31. Januar 2008 Fons Adriaensen:
How fast is qjackctl? Ii is not an acl in jack directly, it will just
disconnect the connections as fast as it can after getting to know them. But
that could be 200 periods after the 5kHz tone destroyed Fons' speaker...
It is maybe a first solution, but in this regard I would prefer the inclusion
of ACLs in jackd.
Arnold
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One bad example, sadly, is Ardour. Even if I
remove
the auditioner ports and save the session they come
back and autoconnect to my power amps (*) next time
the session is loaded.
Seems to be an assumption buglet. Dangerous indeed.
qjackctl's patchbay lets you work around these surprises:
2:26 p.m.
New subject: Prototyping algorithms and ideas
Donnerstag, 31. Januar 2008 Arnold Krille:
How fast is qjackctl? Ii is not an acl in jack
directly, it will
just disconnect the connections as fast as it can after getting to
know them. But that could be 200 periods after the 5kHz tone
destroyed Fons' speaker...
Oh, thanks. I wasn't aware of this.
Wolfgang
3:25 p.m.
New subject: jackd acl (was: Prototyping algorithms and ideas)
Donnerstag, 31. Januar 2008 Arnold Krille:
It is maybe a first solution, but in this regard I
would prefer the
inclusion of ACLs in jackd.
Do you happen to know whether this has been discussed? Or if someone
put ideas about it somewhere? I'm getting nowhere with google ...
Wolfgang
4:43 p.m.
New subject: jackd acl (was: Prototyping algorithms and ideas)
Am Donnerstag, 31. Januar 2008 schrieb Wolfgang Woehl:
Donnerstag, 31. Januar 2008 Arnold Krille:
That was discussed this month on either lad or lau or ardour or somewhere on
irc. Strange enough I can't find the correpsonding emails here in my kmail.
But I remember paul being not so repellent on the idea/patch(?) as before...
And
http://lists.linuxaudio.org/pipermail/linux-audio-dev/2008-January/020456.h…
seems to kind of summarize it...
Arnold
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It is maybe a first solution, but in this regard
I would prefer the
inclusion of ACLs in jackd.
Do you happen to know whether this has been discussed?
Or if someone
put ideas about it somewhere? I'm getting nowhere with google ...
2:38 p.m.
New subject: Prototyping algorithms and ideas
On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 06:39:56PM +0100, Wolfgang Woehl wrote:
192 amp lines? What are you up to :)
Making lots of noise :-)
No, seriously, the 176-channel one is a Wave Field Synthesis system.
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