21 Jan
2014
21 Jan
'14
8:23 p.m.
On 01/21/2014 07:10 PM, John Hammen wrote:
If the community is willing to pay for it, sure.
But I find that a bit hard to believe...
There's a difference on how KXStudio repositories are done vs regular
debian/ubuntu repos.
Debian and Ubuntu usually build against a specific version, and don't
usually do backports.
on KX repos I'm starting build all packages the same way (ie, the
generic linux builds), and update software very often (sometimes minutes
after release :D ).
I hate when distros only package new stuff for the their newest,
unreleased/testing/upcoming version and completely ignore the users
running stable versions... :(
Then they
should wait until their distro or someone else provides
> >a package. Or pay someone to do the work for them, just as they
> >have to for commercial software, or for the mechanic you mention.
(...)
the idea being: a person whose paid responsibility it is to make us
LAUs happy with fresh new packages and, ideally also work with folks
upstream on build sanity issues. Filipe, would you be willing to
supervise such a person, feed them the less fun parts of what you do
and check their work? 
21 Jan
21 Jan
9:42 p.m.
New subject: Releasing source code is not enough, I think...
On 01/21/2014 12:23 PM, Filipe Coelho wrote:
On 01/21/2014 07:10 PM, John Hammen wrote:
If the community is willing to pay for it, sure.
But I find that a bit hard to believe...
There's a difference on how KXStudio repositories are done vs regular
debian/ubuntu repos.
Debian and Ubuntu usually build against a specific version, and don't
usually do backports.
on KX repos I'm starting build all packages the same way (ie, the
generic linux builds), and update software very often (sometimes
minutes after release :D ).
I hate when distros only package new stuff for the their newest,
unreleased/testing/upcoming version and completely ignore the users
running stable versions... :(
it appears my original message didn't make it to the list:
have to speak up as a LAU and general OSS user: the lack of proper
packaging is certainly a bit hostile to the end user, but I also agree
with this sentiment - it is not the responsibility of the original
developer, that their responsibility ends with the sane build (i.e.
ignore the non-technical user, alright, but do be kind to those willing
to build!)
but it is simple fact that the packaging (and associated dependency
checking, testing etc.) is painstaking work and not as much fun as the
app development, that's why I'm so grateful to people like the Debian
maintainers, and more locally folks like AutoStatic and Filipe yourself
- I cannot blame you for wanting to see more help in that department.
I'm so grateful in fact that I would personally pay $25/month to pay
someone to do this kind of work, I guess I should shut up now and just
start subscribing to kxstudio, but I have to throw it out there: what
about hiring somebody from odesk.com or the like?
Then they
should wait until their distro or someone else provides
> >a package. Or pay someone to do the work for them, just as they
> >have to for commercial software, or for the mechanic you mention.
(...)
the idea being: a person whose paid responsibility it is to make us
LAUs happy with fresh new packages and, ideally also work with folks
upstream on build sanity issues. Filipe, would you be willing to
supervise such a person, feed them the less fun parts of what you do
and check their work?
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