11 Dec
2002
11 Dec
'02
11:30 p.m.
Well, this might be early, but I needed to do something slightly less
demanding for a while. So I hacked a small presentation:
http://olofson.net/xap/
Please, check facts and language (not my native tongue), and suggest
changes or additions.
(Oops! Clicked on dat doggy-like animal in da process... ;-)
//David Olofson - Programmer, Composer, Open Source Advocate
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12 Dec
12 Dec
8:40 a.m.
On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 04:25:08 +0100, David Olofson wrote:
Well, this might be early, but I needed to do something slightly less
demanding for a while. So I hacked a small presentation:
http://olofson.net/xap/
Nice logo.
- Steve
9:22 a.m.
On Thursday 12 December 2002 13.35, Steve Harris wrote:
On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 04:25:08 +0100, David Olofson
wrote:
Thanks. :-)
I have a few similar ideas, BTW. Basically about cleaning it up a
bit; having less "pieces". However, the differently colored A turned
out to motivate itself rather well, so I'm not sure any "integration"
would be an improvement.
One thing I *will* fix, though, is the shape of the P. There's
something wrong with it. But no problem - bezier curves rule! :-)
(And of course, I'll make huge highres versions and icons and stuff
as well, when we have the final design down. :-)
Other contributions and ideas are welcome, of course!
IMHO, we should have something that looks cool, serious and
professional. No "home made" taste whatsoever. Can't be sure if I can
judge my own work objectively, so - opinions, please!
//David Olofson - Programmer, Composer, Open Source Advocate
.- The Return of Audiality! --------------------------------.
| Free/Open Source Audio Engine for use in Games or Studio. |
| RT and off-line synth. Scripting. Sample accurate timing. |
`---------------------------> http://olofson.net/audiality -'
.- M A I A -------------------------------------------------.
| The Multimedia Application Integration Architecture |
`----------------------------> http://www.linuxdj.com/maia -'
--- http://olofson.net --- http://www.reologica.se ---
Well, this might be early, but I needed to do
something slightly
less demanding for a while. So I hacked a small presentation:
http://olofson.net/xap/
Nice logo. 
9:52 a.m.
David Olofson wrote:
On Thursday 12 December 2002 13.35, Steve Harris
wrote:
First I got a bit irritated about the tilt in A and P, but I suppose the
main problem is in P himself. You could try and make the upper right
part of the P tilt a bit, too. Hard to describe, but what I mean is that
if you tilt the whole letter back so that it stands straight, you see
the upper right part leans to right.
Whatever. This shouldn't be the forum for me blabbing about graphics :)
Nice logo.
One thing I *will* fix, though, is the shape of the P. There's
something wrong with it. But no problem - bezier curves rule! :-) IMHO, we should have something that looks cool,
serious and
professional. No "home made" taste whatsoever. Can't be sure if I can
judge my own work objectively, so - opinions, please!
Looks good, and can be made very good. Another thing I'd consider
testing is making the loop in P a little more narrow. There's lots of
space inside, whereas other stuff in the logo is very dense.
-Antti "No, I'm not a graphics designer" Boman
2:59 p.m.
On Thursday 12 December 2002 14.45, Antti Boman wrote:
Yes, I've considered that too. It's easy enough to just drag the
control points around, so it's just a matter of seeing what should be
done. It's not a matter of dimensions, but rather *percepted*
dimensions of things.
David Olofson wrote:
Yes. The tilt is there because without it, the whole logo looks
skewed. You think you notice the backwards tilt at all, mostly
because the *rest* of the P isn't tilted in the same way.
On Thursday 12 December 2002 13.35, Steve Harris
wrote:
First I got a bit irritated about the tilt in A and P, but I
suppose the main problem is in P himself. Nice logo.
One thing I *will* fix, though, is the shape of the P. There's
something wrong with it. But no problem - bezier curves rule! :-) You could try and make
the upper right part of the P tilt a bit, too.
Exactly - that's what I'm going to experiment with.
Hard to describe,
but what I mean is that if you tilt the whole letter back so that
it stands straight, you see the upper right part leans to right.
Yeah; a typical example of why all good looking fonts actually have
lots of seemingly weird "compensations"; round shapes are always
slightly outside the bounds not to look too small, etc.
Whatever. This shouldn't be the forum for me
blabbing about
graphics :)
*hehe* Well, I started it - and anyway, "marketting" of our to-be
standard instrument plugin API is of common intrerest to most of us,
isn't it?
IMHO, we
should have something that looks cool, serious and
professional. No "home made" taste whatsoever. Can't be sure if I
can judge my own work objectively, so - opinions, please!
Looks good, and can be made very good. Another thing I'd consider
testing is making the loop in P a little more narrow. There's lots
of space inside, whereas other stuff in the logo is very dense. -Antti "No, I'm not a graphics designer"
Boman
Well, the way I like to think about most things is that if you can
tell good from bad, there's hope! The rest is just about motivation
and training. :-)
//David Olofson - Programmer, Composer, Open Source Advocate
.- The Return of Audiality! --------------------------------.
| Free/Open Source Audio Engine for use in Games or Studio. |
| RT and off-line synth. Scripting. Sample accurate timing. |
`---------------------------> http://olofson.net/audiality -'
.- M A I A -------------------------------------------------.
| The Multimedia Application Integration Architecture |
`----------------------------> http://www.linuxdj.com/maia -'
--- http://olofson.net --- http://www.reologica.se ---
13 Dec
13 Dec
9:51 a.m.
David Olofson wrote:
Yes, I know. The thing that strikes the viewer first is how the entirety
looks out. After that people tend to start perceiving the small clicks
in the picture.
Amen :)
-a
On Thursday 12 December 2002 14.45, Antti Boman
wrote:
Definitely, and as much as I would like to see people concentrate on
coding, it's great to see the marketing side develop alongside.
Whatever. This shouldn't be the forum for me
blabbing about
graphics :)
*hehe* Well, I started it - and anyway, "marketting" of our to-be
standard instrument plugin API is of common intrerest to most of us,
isn't it? Looks good, and
can be made very good. Another thing I'd consider
testing is making the loop in P a little more narrow. There's lots
of space inside, whereas other stuff in the logo is very dense.
Yes, I've considered that too. It's easy enough to just drag the
control points around, so it's just a matter of seeing what should be
done. It's not a matter of dimensions, but rather *percepted*
dimensions of things. -Antti
"No, I'm not a graphics designer" Boman
Well, the way I like to think about most things is that if you can
tell good from bad, there's hope! The rest is just about motivation
and training. :-)
12 Dec
12 Dec
10:41 a.m.
On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 02:17:05PM +0100, David Olofson wrote:
One thing I *will* fix, though, is the shape of the P.
There's
something wrong with it. But no problem - bezier curves rule! :-)
I think Antti is right, the P is too elongated.
I'd be tempted to loose the words "audio plugins", doesn't really look
right, and probably doesn't belong on the general logo.
(And of course, I'll make huge highres versions
and icons and stuff
as well, when we have the final design down. :-)
And vector (EPS/SVG) ofcourse.
- Steve
4:03 p.m.
On Thursday 12 December 2002 15.36, Steve Harris wrote:
Well, the problem is that I'm working in GIMP, which doesn't seem to
feel like exporting bezier curves... Am I missing something, or do I
need to hack something? (I'd *really* like to work some on that tool,
if I had the time. It's extremely powerful as it is, but I think it
has some flaws and missing features.)
OTOH, it should be easy enough to "vectorize" a highres image...
//David Olofson - Programmer, Composer, Open Source Advocate
.- The Return of Audiality! --------------------------------.
| Free/Open Source Audio Engine for use in Games or Studio. |
| RT and off-line synth. Scripting. Sample accurate timing. |
`---------------------------> http://olofson.net/audiality -'
.- M A I A -------------------------------------------------.
| The Multimedia Application Integration Architecture |
`----------------------------> http://www.linuxdj.com/maia -'
--- http://olofson.net --- http://www.reologica.se ---
On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 02:17:05PM +0100, David
Olofson wrote:
Yes - that, and/or it's the wrong shape.
One thing I *will* fix, though, is the shape of
the P. There's
something wrong with it. But no problem - bezier curves rule! :-)
I think Antti is right, the P is too elongated. I'd be tempted to loose the words "audio
plugins", doesn't really
look right, and probably doesn't belong on the general logo.
Agreed. I don't like it much either, and it doesn't explain the whole
acronym, unless you already know about the recursive variant.
(And of
course, I'll make huge highres versions and icons and
stuff as well, when we have the final design down. :-)
And vector (EPS/SVG) ofcourse. 
5:45 p.m.
On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 20:58:46 +0100
David Olofson <david(a)olofson.net> wrote:
Well, the problem is that I'm working in GIMP,
which doesn't seem to
feel like exporting bezier curves... Am I missing something, or do I
need to hack something? (I'd *really* like to work some on that tool,
if I had the time. It's extremely powerful as it is, but I think it
has some flaws and missing features.)
'Dia' is a good for doing vector stuff:
http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia/
-
Mike
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14 Dec
14 Dec
3:15 a.m.
David Olofson <david(a)olofson.net> wrote:
On Thursday 12 December 2002 15.36, Steve Harris
wrote:
Perhaps you could export in raster format, then use a tool like
autotrace (http://autotrace.sourceforge.net/) to convert.
Josh
On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 02:17:05PM +0100, David
Olofson wrote:
Well, the problem is that I'm working in GIMP, which doesn't seem to
feel like exporting bezier curves... Am I missing something, or do I
need to hack something? (And of course, I'll make huge highres
versions and icons and
stuff as well, when we have the final design down. :-)
And vector (EPS/SVG) ofcourse.
10:27 a.m.
On Saturday 14 December 2002 08.18, Joshua Haberman wrote:
David Olofson <david(a)olofson.net> wrote:
Yeah, that's what I had in mind. Thanks for the link!
//David Olofson - Programmer, Composer, Open Source Advocate
.- The Return of Audiality! --------------------------------.
| Free/Open Source Audio Engine for use in Games or Studio. |
| RT and off-line synth. Scripting. Sample accurate timing. |
`---------------------------> http://olofson.net/audiality -'
.- M A I A -------------------------------------------------.
| The Multimedia Application Integration Architecture |
`----------------------------> http://www.linuxdj.com/maia -'
--- http://olofson.net --- http://www.reologica.se ---
On Thursday 12 December 2002 15.36, Steve Harris
wrote:
Perhaps you could export in raster format, then use a tool like
autotrace (http://autotrace.sourceforge.net/) to convert. On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 02:17:05PM +0100, David
Olofson wrote:
Well, the problem is that I'm working in GIMP, which doesn't seem
to feel like exporting bezier curves... Am I missing something,
or do I need to hack something? (And of course, I'll make huge highres
versions and icons and
stuff as well, when we have the final design down. :-)
And vector (EPS/SVG) ofcourse. 
12 Dec
12 Dec
4:55 p.m.
Well, this
might be early, but I needed to do something slightly less
demanding for a while. So I hacked a small presentation:
http://olofson.net/xap/
Nice logo.
5:53 p.m.
On Thursday 12 December 2002 21.50, Tim Hockin wrote:
I like the lettering. Can we see it on a mock 19" rack. maybe some
ears and screws on it? :)
Well, the texture is 256x256 and tileable... However, it's just
noise, horizontal motion blur and some basic "light" effects - pretty
simple effect to create.
//David Olofson - Programmer, Composer, Open Source Advocate
.- The Return of Audiality! --------------------------------.
| Free/Open Source Audio Engine for use in Games or Studio. |
| RT and off-line synth. Scripting. Sample accurate timing. |
`---------------------------> http://olofson.net/audiality -'
.- M A I A -------------------------------------------------.
| The Multimedia Application Integration Architecture |
`----------------------------> http://www.linuxdj.com/maia -'
--- http://olofson.net --- http://www.reologica.se ---
Well, this might be early, but I needed to do
something
slightly less demanding for a while. So I hacked a small
presentation:
http://olofson.net/xap/
Nice logo. 
11:08 p.m.
Steve Harris wrote:
On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 04:25:08 +0100, David Olofson
wrote:
Very nice. Logo #2 (with the red A) gets my vote.
-dgm
Well, this might be early, but I needed to do
something slightly less
demanding for a while. So I hacked a small presentation:
http://olofson.net/xap/
Nice logo.
- Steve
13 Dec
13 Dec
6:37 a.m.
On Friday 13 December 2002 04.08, David Gerard Matthews wrote:
Steve Harris wrote:
Hmm... Yeah, that's the first version I made. My ex GF suggested
blue, and I thought it might look more "serious" in a way. I think I
prefer the red one too, though...
//David Olofson - Programmer, Composer, Open Source Advocate
.- The Return of Audiality! --------------------------------.
| Free/Open Source Audio Engine for use in Games or Studio. |
| RT and off-line synth. Scripting. Sample accurate timing. |
`---------------------------> http://olofson.net/audiality -'
.- M A I A -------------------------------------------------.
| The Multimedia Application Integration Architecture |
`----------------------------> http://www.linuxdj.com/maia -'
--- http://olofson.net --- http://www.reologica.se ---
On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 04:25:08 +0100, David
Olofson wrote:
Very nice. Logo #2 (with the red A) gets my vote. Well, this might be early, but I needed to do
something slightly
less demanding for a while. So I hacked a small presentation:
http://olofson.net/xap/
Nice logo.
- Steve
7:38 a.m.
On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 11:32:10 +0100, David Olofson wrote:
Me too. :)
- Steve
Very nice.
Logo #2 (with the red A) gets my vote.
Hmm... Yeah, that's the first version I made. My ex GF suggested
blue, and I thought it might look more "serious" in a way. I think I
prefer the red one too, though... 
14 Dec
14 Dec
11:52 a.m.
On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 11:33:38AM +0000, Steve Harris wrote:
On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 11:32:10 +0100, David Olofson
wrote:
Me too. :)
Yeah, me too! The 2nd logo is the best, but the P is a bit too wide :)
Cheers, Alex
--
Very
nice. Logo #2 (with the red A) gets my vote.
Hmm... Yeah, that's the first version I made. My ex GF suggested
blue, and I thought it might look more "serious" in a way. I think I
prefer the red one too, though...
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