26 Mar
2010
26 Mar
'10
5:34 p.m.
If you know Turing's 'Computable Numbers' you
may enjoy this:
<http://aturingmachine.com>
Ciao,
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FA
O tu, che porte, correndo si ?
E guerra e morte !
26 Mar
26 Mar
6 p.m.
fons(a)kokkinizita.net wrote:
If you know Turing's 'Computable Numbers'
you
may enjoy this:
<http://aturingmachine.com>
Ciao,
This is for dinos like me :), on German you might like to read
http://www-ti.informatik.tu-cottbus.de/Studium/02Zahlen/index.html and a
big NO, I don't understand anything, I'm a musician and I wasn't able to
finish school ;). On English
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computable_number :D.
@ "Bis(-)hop", is there anyone how knows the name of the android in the
Alien's films?
Fons? You are that kind of crazy?
Because of my broken English I'm not sure if this is the same.
6:09 p.m.
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
fons(a)kokkinizita.net wrote:
Hahaha, we are talking about the same :D. The fly in the ointment missed
me :). Anyway, I like the visually, technical view of your link :).
If you know Turing's 'Computable
Numbers' you
may enjoy this:
<http://aturingmachine.com>
Ciao,
This is for dinos like me :), on German you might like to read
http://www-ti.informatik.tu-cottbus.de/Studium/02Zahlen/index.html and a
big NO, I don't understand anything, I'm a musician and I wasn't able to
finish school ;). On English
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computable_number :D.
@ "Bis(-)hop", is there anyone how knows the name of the android in the
Alien's films?
Fons? You are that kind of crazy?
Because of my broken English I'm not sure if this is the same.
7:15 p.m.
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 10:00:24PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
Fons? You are that kind of crazy?
Yes, I'm a mathematician.
Seriously now, Turing's theory is as fundamental to
computing as Newton's laws are to physics, Shannon
to information theory, or Nyquist to sampling.
Ciao,
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FA
O tu, che porte, correndo si ?
E guerra e morte !
7:30 p.m.
fons(a)kokkinizita.net wrote:
Newton's laws are to physics
I take you with me to a desert island, perhaps both of us won't survive
it :D. GPS doesn't work because of Newton :D. Pardon, I'm drunken,
there's nothing wrong with Newton, but sometimes Newton isn't working
for modern life any more.
I envy your gift to understand maths. Or were you very disciplined?
8:12 p.m.
James Morris wrote:
On Fri, March 26, 2010 22:39, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
not true.
Pardon, "understand" might be the wrong word on English ... but I guess
I captured this thread to satisfy my curiosity ... Ähh pardon, I guess I
should be quiet now.
Hehehe, anyway I now know that here are some maths gifted people.
Ralf
I envy
your gift to understand maths.
PS: Every idiot is able to learn binomial formula. Do you understand
stuff similar to that just by nature?
8:43 p.m.
On Fri, March 26, 2010 23:11, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
James Morris wrote:
My grasp of maths doesn't go much further than linear cross-fade ramps and
the modulation of them ;-)
kinda ironic really as i'm two of the areas which interest me in
programming are audio and fractals/graphics.
On Fri, March 26, 2010 22:39, Ralf Mardorf
wrote:
not true.
Pardon, "understand" might be the wrong word on English ... but I guess
I captured this thread to satisfy my curiosity ... Ähh pardon, I guess I
should be quiet now. I envy
your gift to understand maths.
PS: Every idiot is able to learn binomial formula. Do you understand
stuff similar to that just by nature?
Hehehe, anyway I now know that here are some maths
gifted people.
Ralf
27 Mar
27 Mar
5:42 a.m.
James Morris wrote:
On Fri, March 26, 2010 23:11, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
Maybe it's better not to understand maths, than to be a gifted
mathematician with a bizarre job. I know a women, she's a classical
singer and a mathematician and her job is calculating mathematical
probability for a insurance company. Btw. it's just me who thinks that
this is an odd job. She's very happy with it.
I would like to understand fractales, path integral etc. and even a lot
of simple school stuff, but I guess it's better if I keep on making arts
instead of trying to understand maths.
James Morris wrote:
My grasp of maths doesn't go much further than linear cross-fade ramps and
the modulation of them ;-)
kinda ironic really as i'm two of the areas which interest me in
programming are audio and fractals/graphics.
On Fri, March 26, 2010 22:39, Ralf Mardorf
wrote:
Pardon, "understand" might be the wrong word on English ... but I
guess
I captured this thread to satisfy my curiosity ... Ähh pardon, I guess I
should be quiet now.
> I envy your gift to understand maths.
>
>
PS: Every idiot is able to learn binomial formula. Do you understand
stuff similar to that just by nature?
not true.
26 Mar
26 Mar
8:19 p.m.
James Morris wrote:
On Fri, March 26, 2010 22:39, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
not true.
To extrapolate maths vs understanding it by nature.
I'm off now to avoid to annoy the list too much.
I envy
your gift to understand maths.
PS: Every idiot is able to learn binomial formula. Do you understand
stuff similar to that just by nature?
7:46 p.m.
On Friday 26 March 2010 23:30:36 Ralf Mardorf wrote:
fons(a)kokkinizita.net wrote:
Actually he is more than working today. If the stars revolve around you, that
is Newton. If the beer drops to the ground from your pint, that is Newton. If
you find yourself on the ground with an apple in your hand, that is Newton.
/me is kind of drunk too
Newton's laws are to physics
I take
you with me to a desert island, perhaps both of us won't survive
it :D. GPS doesn't work because of Newton :D. Pardon, I'm drunken,
there's nothing wrong with Newton, but sometimes Newton isn't working
for modern life any more. I envy your gift to understand maths. Or were you very
disciplined?
I find it more hard _not_ to understand math...
Arnold
8:06 p.m.
Arnold Krille wrote:
On Friday 26 March 2010 23:30:36 Ralf Mardorf wrote:
Hm? This really interesting. I like to know something about the people
on the Linux lists. I'm tested as gifted, but I don't understand maths,
even if I do understand physics. I guess today this is called intuitive
physics. Neurosciences is talking about left and right brained people.
IMO just maths gifted people are really able to understand some issues.
I'm really sorry for myself that maths just doesn't come to me as easy
as other stuff comes to me. So you really has an advantage for a lot of
needed knowledge for modern life. This is really cool. I hope you know
about this advantage for yourself. I found some weasel philosophic words
to justify, that maths is overrated, but I'm wrong, it's just a
self-deceit. I honestly don't believe in the TOE, but I guess maths is
one of the most important things ... even if there are some bad excesses ;).
fons(a)kokkinizita.net wrote:
Actually he is more than working today. If the stars revolve around you, that
is Newton. If the beer drops to the ground from your pint, that is Newton. If
you find yourself on the ground with an apple in your hand, that is Newton.
/me is kind of drunk too
Newton's laws are to physics
I take you with me to a desert island, perhaps both of us won't
survive
it :D. GPS doesn't work because of Newton :D. Pardon, I'm drunken,
there's nothing wrong with Newton, but sometimes Newton isn't working
for modern life any more.
I envy your gift to understand maths. Or were you
very disciplined?
I find it more hard _not_ to understand math...
Arnold
27 Mar
27 Mar
5:35 a.m.
Dr. Sheldon Cooper might shed some light on most that has been said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheldon_Cooper
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26 Mar
26 Mar
8:32 p.m.
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 11:30:36PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
Pardon, I'm drunken.
I'm starting to believe this... :-)
About discipline: tomorrow morning at 08:00, when you
have recovered a bit, first run the MIDI tests. After
that I'll interrogate you about binomials.
Enjoy the night !
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FA
O tu, che porte, correndo si ?
E guerra e morte !
27 Mar
27 Mar
5:30 a.m.
fons(a)kokkinizita.net wrote:
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 11:30:36PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf
wrote:
No need to ask me about binomials, I have not the slightest idea of
maths :D. It's similar for a friend, but he learned maths and is able to
use it or at least he was able to use it, as a psychotherapist he might
has forgotten about it.
Hm, I send the results of my test at 09:09, but it was around 08:00 when
I was disciplined.
Perhaps using JACK MIDI might be good enough for my needs. The result
was less 2 ms (if using maths didn't fail). Unfortunately I need ALSA
MIDI when using Qtractor and I'm not sure that the tests I made some
time ago, using another kernel, are as precise as your test, perhaps
1,99 ms are still not good enough.
Ciao!
Ralf
Pardon, I'm drunken.
I'm starting to believe this... :-)
About discipline: tomorrow morning at 08:00, when you
have recovered a bit, first run the MIDI tests. After
that I'll interrogate you about binomials.
Enjoy the night !
26 Mar
26 Mar
7:15 p.m.
A big post scriptum to everybody interested in computer science. While
Mr. Minsky always is quoted, they forget to quote Mr. Weizenbaum :(.
Please don't miss the genius of Weizenbaum.
OT: That reminds me that I still have to reply to a mail of "cern" ...
pardon, I'll reply ASAP, again off-list.
29 Mar
29 Mar
7:35 a.m.
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 09:29:46PM +0100, fons(a)kokkinizita.net wrote:
If you know Turing's 'Computable Numbers'
you
may enjoy this:
<http://aturingmachine.com>
Wow, thanks for the link, Fons, it's amazing.
Btw: I built a Turing machine once myself, in Pd of course:
http://footils.org/cms/weblog/2007/feb/07/turing-machine-pd/
Should prove that Pd is turing-complete and thus can rule the computable world. :)
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