Re: [linux-audio-dev] Free Publicity - DJCJ Linux Audio Developers Tech Support Database.
27 Oct
2002
27 Oct
'02
12:04 p.m.
Steve Harris wrote:
Well, generally they have large, high res ones that you could recomposit
to suit the site. You could also put them out of the way somewhere.
The aim of the images at the top is to provide one click access to the
most popular sites for information about Linux audio. I really don't
want to move them. They could do with being slightly smaller perhaps.
Yes, but I dont read flags ;)
Mozilla. But my screen at home is only 1024 pixels wide.
Same here.
But that doesn't help if you cant find the right link, and all the
important information is 4 pages down.
I don't follow this. What information is four pages down? Do you mean
the introduction for new users or are you talking about the links to the
various howtos?
On Sun, Oct 27, 2002 at 04:28:59 +0900, Patrick
Shirkey wrote:
But IMO more boring to look at from a newbie POV. I will give that gif a
make over this week. I'm getting tired of seeing it these days but the
info is still vital.
Thanks for the feedback.
Thats true, but a text link would be easier to spot and less distracting.
Its quite hard to read becaues of the gifanims.
the one in the top
left >is hard to make out and the page it links to is very out of date.
It's about due for a redo anyway. The info is still pretty vital. Notice
that there have been almost no questions about how fast Linux latency is
since it was put up. The logos
along the top are all in clashing styles and many of them are
aliased.
I cannot do much about the images provided by other sites. There are
a few too may colours, and mixing red and blue is generally >bad
As in the NZ, Australian, British, French and US flags? On my
browser there is a mixture of 2 and 3 coloumn layouts which
makes >it very wide and hard to follow.
What is your browser? I have been trying to keep it working with
netscape 4.x, mozilla, IE, lynx. Lots of
the information on the frontpage should probably be on >subpages.
The aim is to provide access to most of the info with one click and
without having to scroll. Can I suggest you break the site up into major
sections, that way people
can go to the right section for them.
I've been considering that for a while now. I'm trying to figure out a
nice design. Currently I have an image of a large asterix * with the
links in each slice.
You could always open up to design suggestions from
the lists, that way
you get to choose from lots of desigs without having to make them all
yourself ;)
That's true. It is becoming more of a community property these days.
Does anyone else have any suggestions. Keeping in mind that the site is
primarily for new users most of whom expect a graphically dense site at
least until they get into the Linux way.
--
Patrick Shirkey - Boost Hardware Ltd.
For the discerning hardware connoisseur
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Http://www.djcj.org - The Linux Audio Users guide
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"Um...symbol_get and symbol_put... They're
kindof like does anyone remember like get_symbol
and put_symbol I think we used to have..."
- Rusty Russell in his talk on the module subsystem
27 Oct
27 Oct
12:18 p.m.
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hmm. that last one didn't read well.
I am seeking opinions from people about the layout of http://www.djcj.org
These days it gets quite a lot of hits and I would like to present the
information as cleanly as possible. Seeing as nearly all the info is
written by other people it seems fitting that other peoples ideas for
presentation are taken into account.
Does anyone else have any suggestions? Keeping in mind
that the site
is >primarily for new users most of whom expect a graphically
dense site
at >least until they get into the Linux way.
--
Patrick Shirkey - Boost Hardware Ltd.
For the discerning hardware connoisseur
Http://www.boosthardware.com
Http://www.djcj.org - The Linux Audio Users guide
========================================
"Um...symbol_get and symbol_put... They're
kindof like does anyone remember like get_symbol
and put_symbol I think we used to have..."
- Rusty Russell in his talk on the module subsystem
3:58 p.m.
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On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 01:13:52AM +0900, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
hmm. that last one didn't read well.
I am seeking opinions from people about the layout of http://www.djcj.org
lose the animation.
white background: good!
find out how to keep multiple columns from being wider than the
browser window (or stick to a single main column (with the canonical
left hand navigation column)).
lose the top frame, it doesn't have any information that the user
might need to get at all the time, and it doesn't tell the user where
they are on the site. furthermore, they're all links to offsite pages.
it isn't clear what the user's attention should be drawn to first:
having the licensing as the first thing on the page is kind of
confusing since it's something most people don't care about. perhaps
put it in the small print in the footer.
content layout : split up the content a bit more, perhaps into 'HowTo:
Audio on Linux', 'HowTo: Using Linux', 'Getting Help & Support',
'Links', etc.
don't link to older documentation. folks are probably interested in
information like what sequencer/multitrack hdd recorders/audio
editing/softsynth applications are available and how do i make them
run. address these directly, and give digested information instead of
forcing them to sift through all the primary sources again (as many
here have already done).
what's jack?
what's alsa?
what's a tarball; what do i do with them? why are you providing one to
download?
clearly you'd like to draw user's attention to the low latency stuff.
perhaps put near the top somewhere something like 'how do i get < 3ms
full-duplex audio on linux?' etc. (perhaps find a better link than
benno's old page too).
maybe give a sample workflow, ie. answer the question, 'what does
doing audio and music with linux look like?'
thanks for your work,
rob
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12:21 p.m.
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On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 01:00:00 +0900, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
The text.
Sure, but graphically dense doesn't have to mean hard to read or animated.
- Steve
But that
doesn't help if you cant find the right link, and all the
important information is 4 pages down.
I don't follow this. What information is four pages down? Do you mean
the introduction for new users or are you talking about the links to the
various howtos? I've been considering that for a while now.
I'm trying to figure out a
nice design. Currently I have an image of a large asterix * with the
links in each slice.
Please dont do that. We had a website at work that was like a piechart
tihngy. It was terrible.
You could
always open up to design suggestions from the lists, that way
you get to choose from lots of desigs without having to make them all
yourself ;)
That's true. It is becoming more of a community property these days.
Does anyone else have any suggestions. Keeping in mind that the site is
primarily for new users most of whom expect a graphically dense site at
least until they get into the Linux way. 
2:46 p.m.
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Patrick Shirkey wrote:
>>
>> As in the NZ, Australian, British, French and US flags?
>
Some of us are really sick of seeing flags everywhere.......
That's true. It is becoming more of a community
property these days.
Does anyone else have any suggestions. Keeping in mind that the site
is primarily for new users most of whom expect a graphically dense
site at least until they get into the Linux way.
Graphically dense is one thing, garish is a different story entirely.
There's a lot of valuable and useful information on the site, but it
does kind of hurt to look at....
-dgm
4 p.m.
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Patrick Shirkey wrote:
...
Does anyone
else have any suggestions. Keeping in mind that the site
is primarily for new users most of whom expect a graphically dense
site at least until they get into the Linux way.
Graphically dense is one thing, garish is a different story entirely.
There's a lot of valuable and useful information on the site, but it
does kind of hurt to look at....
-dgm
3:19 p.m.
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On Sunday 27 October 2002 4:00 pm, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
The aim of the images at the top is to provide one
click access to the
most popular sites for information about Linux audio. I really don't
want to move them. They could do with being slightly smaller perhaps.
I'd like to suggest that you put them in a table at the top or side of the
page rather than a frame -- I don't think they need to stay visible if you
scroll down or follow a link.
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