5 Sep
2003
5 Sep
'03
8:30 a.m.
Hello,
the german magazine KEYBOARDS has answered a readers question about audio
and linux with tremendous ignorance. I think this is a good chance to push
linux to the attention of "the masses".
Here is the full text of question and answer (first in german, so anyone
can correct my errors ;-).
... snip
well the answer from the guy is in my opinion correct atleast for now.
You need a LL-patch to get audio work as desired and AFAIK there is
no main stream distro with that patch already applied.
Please dont misunderstand me, i love audio on Linux but there is still
some work to do until its is ready for "anyone". And i think thats what
the answer was about.
- Stefan
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8:52 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-dev] KEYBOARDS: Linux is not suited for audio applications ...
Hello Stefan,
At 10.16 05/09/2003 +0000, you wrote:
well the answer from the guy is in my opinion correct
atleast for now.
...
the answer was about.
I agree, the magazine answer was indeed pretty fair.
Bye,
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9:06 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-dev] KEYBOARDS: Linux is not suited for audio applications ...
Friday 05 September 2003 12:16 skrev Stefan Nitschke:
In my opinion you are both right. But at some point in time you really need to
be a bit provokative, both to make people try and to lift your own horizon.
These "problems" won't fix themselves, it will be users requesting them to
be
fixed (and in this case -open source- so users will be fixing it) and then
the ball will start rolling until it accumulates enough speed that it is self
sustaining.
And... things have gotten a lot better, there are no "of the shelf"
distros...yet, but there are numerous -easy to install- addons that are
definately geared towards end users.
DeMuDi
ReMuDi
PlanetCCRMA
turnkey
mandrake-contrib (or what it's called)
I for one wouldn't mind if there where some bold statements directed towards a
magazine like KEYBOARDS :)
Another way of putting it is that the response from KEYBOARDS is counter
productive, it sells the argument "it's to early, wait a few years more..."
And that may be right for a lot of users, but it may also scare of some
potential developers and early-adopters, since the article hardly even
mention the possibility of doing it the hard way.
Regards,
Robert
Hello,
the german magazine KEYBOARDS has answered a readers question about audio
and linux with tremendous ignorance. I think this is a good chance to
push linux to the attention of "the masses".
Here is the full text of question and answer (first in german, so anyone
can correct my errors ;-).
... snip
well the answer from the guy is in my opinion correct atleast for now.
You need a LL-patch to get audio work as desired and AFAIK there is
no main stream distro with that patch already applied.
Please dont misunderstand me, i love audio on Linux but there is still
some work to do until its is ready for "anyone". And i think thats what
the answer was about. 
10:32 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-dev] KEYBOARDS: Linux is not suited for audio applications ...
Stefan Nitschke wrote:
[snip]
Please dont misunderstand me, i love audio on Linux but there is still
some work to do until its is ready for "anyone". And i think thats what
the answer was about.
Hi Stefan:
I agree with you regarding the work we still have to do. But with all
respect, I disagree regarding the editor's reply. That answer was a
poorly formed response that reiterated outmoded perceptions.
<rant>
When was the last time anyone on this list dealt directly with a M$
application problem and ended up calling tech support ? Is telling
someone how to repair something in the registry really very different
from telling someone how to edit a makefile ? And is telling someone how
to run './configure; make; make install' all that fabulously difficult ?
Are the Linux GUIs for handling RPM packages awfully awkward to employ ?
My god, what do Windozers do when faced with (*gasp*) a zipped file ?
And has anyone else noted that PlanetCCRMA makes available a *complete*
Red Hat distribution, i.e. *not* an add-on, apt-getted for the greatest
ease selecting and installing Linux audio applications ? And with a
low-latency kernel ? And capabilities enabled ? IIRC the end user needs
to do very little beyond installing the system and installing his
selected apps (or he can install the whole set at once, if preferred)
before he's ready to rock.
I believe Demudi is very similar.
I was surfing Patrick Shirkey's excellent Linux audio user's guide
yesterday and discovered his manifesto on promoting Linux audio :
http://www.djcj.org/LAU/openads/main.php
I quote from the page:
"There is a problem in the Linux Audio community. We are in general
agreement that the image that the mass market has of Linux Audio is not
consistent with the work that is being done."
He then goes on to describe various ways which we, as a community, can
help change that image. Perhaps someone could advise the editor of
Keyboards that he needs to do a little better research ?
</rant>
Sorry for the rant, I haven't had my coffee yet this morning... :-\
Best regards,
== Dave Phillips
The Book Of Linux Music & Sound at http://www.nostarch.com/lms.htm
The Linux Soundapps Site at http://linux-sound.org
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