16 Mar
2006
16 Mar
'06
2:26 p.m.
Are there alternatives for 'ams' and 'om'? My problems are:
- 'ams' has not text fields to type-in controls values with needed precision,
sliders are not sufficient,
- 'om' engine has too many crashes (I see, it is normal, as the app is under
development).
Anything else?
16 Mar
16 Mar
2:49 p.m.
On 3/16/06, Andrew Gaydenko <a(a)gaydenko.com> wrote:
Are there alternatives for 'ams' and
'om'? My problems are:
- 'ams' has not text fields to type-in controls values with needed precision,
sliders are not sufficient,
- 'om' engine has too many crashes (I see, it is normal, as the app is under
development).
Anything else?
Ardour and jack-rack both satisfy your requirements..
jlc
3:14 p.m.
Unfortunately, in case you have, say, 20-30 different plugin instances
(non-linear connected), cited (nice and known!) apps are not sutable :-(
======= On Thursday 16 March 2006 21:49, Jesse Chappell wrote: =======
On 3/16/06, Andrew Gaydenko <a(a)gaydenko.com> wrote:
Are there alternatives for 'ams' and
'om'? My problems are:
- 'ams' has not text fields to type-in controls values with needed precision,
sliders are not sufficient,
- 'om' engine has too many crashes (I see, it is normal, as the app is under
development).
Anything else?
Ardour and jack-rack both satisfy your requirements..
jlc
3:01 p.m.
On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 21:26 +0300, Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
Are there alternatives for 'ams' and
'om'? My problems are:
- 'ams' has not text fields to type-in controls values with needed precision,
sliders are not sufficient,
- 'om' engine has too many crashes (I see, it is normal, as the app is under
development).
The engine has been rock solid for me for the last month or so (modulo a
few bugs that has been fixed quickly). What sort of crashes are you
seeing?
Anything else?
I think Csound supports LADSPAs.
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3:21 p.m.
Lars,
Segfaults, segfaults... I have not noticed any concrete reproducable step sequence yet,
as have tried the app rather shortly.
======= On Thursday 16 March 2006 22:01, Lars Luthman wrote: =======
...
- 'om' engine has too many crashes (I see, it
is normal, as the app is under
development).
The engine has been rock solid for me for the last month or so (modulo a
few bugs that has been fixed quickly). What sort of crashes are you
seeing?
...
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Fingerprint: FCA7 C790 19B9 322D EB7A E1B3 4371 4650 04C7 7E2E
17 Mar
17 Mar
9:23 a.m.
On 3/17/06, Andrew Gaydenko <a(a)gaydenko.com> wrote:
Lars,
Segfaults, segfaults... I have not noticed any concrete reproducable step sequence yet,
as have tried the app rather shortly.
I really don't get it to crash for quite a few months. Please chat to
dave on irc, or submit bugreports
3:05 p.m.
On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 09:26:09PM +0300, Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
Are there alternatives for 'ams' and
'om'? My problems are:
- 'ams' has not text fields to type-in controls values with needed precision,
sliders are not sufficient,
- 'om' engine has too many crashes (I see, it is normal, as the app is under
development).
gAlan. its all there...
Anything else?
--
torben Hohn
http://galan.sourceforge.net -- The graphical Audio language
7:22 p.m.
Hallo,
Andrew Gaydenko hat gesagt: // Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
Are there alternatives for 'ams' and
'om'? My problems are:
- 'ams' has not text fields to type-in controls values with needed precision,
sliders are not sufficient,
- 'om' engine has too many crashes (I see, it is normal, as the app is under
development).
Anything else?
Pd. It will be easy to start for you, as you already know how modular
synths work, and Pd generally is rock-stable (if you don't do some of
the more exotic things that can crash Pd as well).
You may even discover that for many things you don't need LADSPA - or
that you can do things, no LADSPA plugin can do yet.
The current LADSPA external for Pd called [plugin~] is a bit unusual
to use because it doesn't support control names with spaces in it, you
have to use a numeric name there, but there are alternatives in
development, also you get a [dssi~] external if you want.
Pd may not look as pretty, but what it lacks in looks it makes up for
in technical merits.
Ciao
--
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17 Mar
17 Mar
8:21 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-dev] LADSPA processing: ams, om, ... Anything else?
On Thu, 2006-16-03 at 21:26 +0300, Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
Are there alternatives for 'ams' and
'om'? My problems are:
[snip]
- 'om' engine has too many crashes (I see, it
is normal, as the app is under
development).
No, actually engine segfaults are not even remotely close to "normal".
I don't recall any bug reports from you - my magic crystal ball (from
which I derive my psychic powers) must be malfunctioning.
What exactly do you expect, if you don't even report bugs?
-DR-
8:39 p.m.
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Dave,
I needed to have quick result in my aufio DIY-ering test, and I have got
it with (among other apps) 'om' - in spite of segfaults :-) Next time I'll
arrange a console side by side with om_gtk window to hook segfault
reason. Now I can add, 'lashd' was running, DSSI scope was used besides
trivial LADSPA plugins like 'sine's, 'Constant', 'amplifier' and
so on.
And ... thanks for the app! Be sure, all is right with your magic power
supplier :-)
Andrew
======= On Saturday 18 March 2006 03:21, Dave Robillard wrote: =======
On Thu, 2006-16-03 at 21:26 +0300, Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
Are there alternatives for 'ams' and
'om'? My problems are:
[snip]
- 'om' engine has too many crashes (I see, it
is normal, as the app is under
development).
No, actually engine segfaults are not even remotely close to "normal".
I don't recall any bug reports from you - my magic crystal ball (from
which I derive my psychic powers) must be malfunctioning.
What exactly do you expect, if you don't even report bugs?
-DR-
18 Mar
18 Mar
10:05 a.m.
On 3/17/06, Andrew Gaydenko <a(a)gaydenko.com> wrote:
Dave,
I needed to have quick result in my aufio DIY-ering test, and I have got
it with (among other apps) 'om' - in spite of segfaults :-) Next time I'll
arrange a console side by side with om_gtk window to hook segfault
reason. Now I can add, 'lashd' was running, DSSI scope was used besides
trivial LADSPA plugins like 'sine's, 'Constant', 'amplifier' and
so on.
And ... thanks for the app! Be sure, all is right with your magic power
supplier :-)
Andrew
======= On Saturday 18 March 2006 03:21, Dave Robillard wrote: =======
On Thu, 2006-16-03 at 21:26 +0300, Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
Hi, Andrew.
I was experiencing this segmentation faults every time too... until I
found that my /etc/hosts file was not correctly set. When I put my
real hostname in there, it worked. This is because the OSC server
needs the /etc/hosts file right for sending and receiving data in the
local computer. Don't know if I explained myself right, but it worked
for me... I am using Arch Linux and its policy is not to have tools to
configure the system, so I had to do it by myself.
HTH.
--
-------------------------------------------
Denis A. Altoe Falqueto
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Are there alternatives for 'ams' and
'om'? My problems are:
[snip]
- 'om' engine has too many crashes (I
see, it is normal, as the app is under
development).
No, actually engine segfaults are not even remotely close to "normal".
I don't recall any bug reports from you - my magic crystal ball (from
which I derive my psychic powers) must be malfunctioning.
What exactly do you expect, if you don't even report bugs?
-DR-
10:45 a.m.
Denis,
Do you mean, om-engine doesn't work at all without appropriate records inside
'hosts'
file ? In my case generally it works.
======= On Saturday 18 March 2006 17:05, Denis Alessandro Altoe Falqueto wrote: =======
...
Hi, Andrew.
I was experiencing this segmentation faults every time too... until I
found that my /etc/hosts file was not correctly set. When I put my
real hostname in there, it worked. This is because the OSC server
needs the /etc/hosts file right for sending and receiving data in the
local computer. Don't know if I explained myself right, but it worked
for me... I am using Arch Linux and its policy is not to have tools to
configure the system, so I had to do it by myself.
HTH.
--
-------------------------------------------
Denis A. Altoe Falqueto
-------------------------------------------
11:02 a.m.
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On 3/18/06, Andrew Gaydenko <a(a)gaydenko.com> wrote:
Denis,
Do you mean, om-engine doesn't work at all without appropriate records inside
'hosts'
file ? In my case generally it works.
Andrew,
To me, it was like this: the engine starts and sits down waiting for a
client to connect. But when I start om_gtk, the engine segfaults...
and the client can't do anything. The client keeps runing but I can't
use it for nothing. When I configured the /etc/hosts it worked right.
My /etc/hosts was like this:
127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost
I changed it to:
127.0.0.1 bach bach
And it all worked. I found the solution in the hexter homepage, at the
bottom of the page, at the FAQ. It explains why the OSC server needs
this to work.
Regards,
--
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Denis A. Altoe Falqueto
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11:21 a.m.
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On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 12:02:40PM -0300, Denis Alessandro Altoe Falqueto wrote:
My /etc/hosts was like this:
127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost
I changed it to:
127.0.0.1 bach bach
And it all worked. I found the solution in the hexter homepage, at the
bottom of the page, at the FAQ. It explains why the OSC server needs
this to work.
It may be a good idea to keep the localhost entry, and *add* the
one you need. Also when no hostname is supplied, apps IMHO should
not try to look up the local host name but just use the loopback
interface (127.0.0.1).
--
FA
Follie ! Follie delirio vano e' questo !
11:27 a.m.
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On 3/18/06, fons adriaensen <fons.adriaensen(a)skynet.be> wrote:
It may be a good idea to keep the localhost entry, and
*add* the
one you need.
Oh, thanks very much, Fons. I'll do that. :-)
--
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Denis A. Altoe Falqueto
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2:38 p.m.
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On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 at 16:28 +0100, fons adriaensen wrote:
On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 12:02:40PM -0300, Denis
Alessandro Altoe Falqueto wrote:
when no hostname is supplied, apps IMHO should
not try to look up the local host name but just use the loopback
interface (127.0.0.1).
FWIW I'm with you on this policy.
--
Hans Fugal ; http://hans.fugal.net
There's nothing remarkable about it. All one has to do is hit the
right keys at the right time and the instrument plays itself.
-- Johann Sebastian Bach
10:19 p.m.
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On Sat, 2006-18-03 at 11:38 -0700, Hans Fugal wrote:
On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 at 16:28 +0100, fons adriaensen
wrote:
Any looking up of hostnames and whatnot occurs in liblo, not apps
themselves
-DR-
On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 12:02:40PM -0300, Denis
Alessandro Altoe Falqueto wrote:
when no hostname is supplied, apps IMHO should
not try to look up the local host name but just use the loopback
interface (127.0.0.1).
FWIW I'm with you on this policy.
1:51 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-dev] LADSPA processing: ams, om, ... Anything else?
On Sat, 2006-18-03 at 17:45 +0300, Andrew Gaydenko wrote:
Denis,
Do you mean, om-engine doesn't work at all without appropriate records inside
'hosts'
file ? In my case generally it works.
Some people have issues with the engine not being able to communicate
with the client without a specific record in /etc/hosts.
If it works at all, this isn't your problem though.
BTW, please don't top-post, it ruins the thread. Post your replies at
the bottom of the quoted message
-DR-
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