12 Dec
2004
12 Dec
'04
7:56 a.m.
Hello everybody,
when linux-audio-announce was created, it was agreed that announcements
should be crossposted to all three lists. The reasoning was that this way
people wouldn't have to subcsribe to LAA if they were already on LAD+LAU.
Now when you look at LAA archives, some people post only to LAA, some
(like me) to all three lists, and some to either LAA+LAD or LAA+LAU.
My suggestion is that we drop this policy altogether: announcements should
be sent to LAA and optionally to LAD and/or LAU. At least I've always had
the nasty feeling that I'm spamming LAD+LAU with my Ecasound release
announcements. Of course, when announcing conferences, major new versions
(JACK-1.0.0 maybe? :)), etc, I see no harm in cross-posting to all the
three lists.
So in other words, if you really want to see _all_ the announcements,
you should subcsribe to LAA.
Any comments? If no objections, at least I will from now on send non-major
release announcements only to LAA.
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Audio software for Linux!
12 Dec
12 Dec
8:45 a.m.
hi *,
On Sun, Dec 12, 2004 at 01:58:08PM +0200, Kai Vehmanen wrote:
My suggestion is that we drop this policy altogether:
announcements should
be sent to LAA and optionally to LAD and/or LAU. At least I've always had
totally agreed. being subscribed to another mailing list does not
harm as long as the policy is clear and respected by everybody.
i'd vote for an announce-only list and very few major announcements on
LAD and LAU as well.
i am currently not subscribed to LAU, but when i used to, the
announcement crosspostings between LAD and LAU were already much more
tedious than a single announce list would have been.
bests,
martin
9:09 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: [linux-audio-dev] announce-list policy
Hi,
I have mixed feelings about this. It sounds like the "right thing to do"
having a specific announce list and the crossposting can be a bit tideous at
times...
But, looking at the current statistics of the mailinglists makes me feel this
policy won't work.
Currently there are 924 subscribers to LAU, 806 to LAD but only 355 to the
announce list. First, I believe most announcements deserve a larger audience
than that. Secondly, I'd think that pretty much everybody subscribed to LAU
would be interested.
So, what to do, should we force subscribe everybody on the LAU list to the
announce list? It's possible but possibly it would offend someone.
It would be interesting to know if there are people on the announce list that
are not subscribed to either LAD or LAU?
If that is the case the announce list does serve a purpose (it also means that
even more people on LAU/LAD do not subscribe to it).
If the announce subscribers also subscribe to either LAU or LAD I think it
would be best to drop the announce list all together, then it does not work
as I think it was intended.
My 2 cents.
/Robert
söndagen den 12 december 2004 13.45 skrev martin rumori:
hi *,
On Sun, Dec 12, 2004 at 01:58:08PM +0200, Kai Vehmanen wrote:
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My suggestion is that we drop this policy
altogether: announcements
should be sent to LAA and optionally to LAD and/or LAU. At least I've
always had
totally agreed. being subscribed to another mailing list does not
harm as long as the policy is clear and respected by everybody.
i'd vote for an announce-only list and very few major announcements on
LAD and LAU as well.
i am currently not subscribed to LAU, but when i used to, the
announcement crosspostings between LAD and LAU were already much more
tedious than a single announce list would have been.
bests,
martin
11:10 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: [linux-audio-dev] announce-list policy
On Sun, Dec 12, 2004 at 02:08:58PM +0100, Robert Jonsson wrote:
Currently there are 924 subscribers to LAU, 806 to LAD
but only 355 to the
announce list. First, I believe most announcements deserve a larger audience
i just subscribed to laa in order to benefit from the new policy :-)
the reason why i wasn't subscribed to laa until now is the old policy
(everything should get announced at lad/lau as well). the only
possibility to avoid massive crosspostings is to not subscribe to laa.
may be this applies not just to me.
bests,
martin
13 Dec
13 Dec
1:07 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Re: [linux-audio-dev] announce-list policy
On Sun, Dec 12, 2004 at 04:10:00PM +0100, martin rumori wrote:
On Sun, Dec 12, 2004 at 02:08:58PM +0100, Robert
Jonsson wrote:
i agree this is the best thing to do: announcing the new policy
to lau and ask the suscribers to suscribe laa should do the
trick. 'auto'-subscribing could well make some run away.
ciao, paul
Currently there are 924 subscribers to LAU, 806
to LAD but only 355 to the
announce list. First, I believe most announcements deserve a larger audience
i just subscribed to laa in order to benefit from the new policy :-) 
12 Dec
12 Dec
9:04 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-dev] Re: announce-list policy
Kai Vehmanen <kvehmanen(a)eca.cx> writes:
My suggestion is that we drop this policy altogether:
announcements should
be sent to LAA and optionally to LAD and/or LAU. At least I've always had
the nasty feeling that I'm spamming LAD+LAU with my Ecasound release
announcements. Of course, when announcing conferences, major new versions
(JACK-1.0.0 maybe? :)), etc, I see no harm in cross-posting to all the
three lists.
So in other words, if you really want to see _all_ the announcements,
you should subcsribe to LAA.
Any comments? If no objections, at least I will from now on send non-major
release announcements only to LAA.
why not subscribe LAD and LAU to LAA? then policy will be enforced
automagically, no?
--
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14 Dec
14 Dec
2:37 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-dev] Re: [linux-audio-user] announce-list policy
On Sun, 2004-12-12 at 13:58 +0200, Kai Vehmanen wrote:
when linux-audio-announce was created, it was agreed that announcements
should be crossposted to all three lists. The reasoning was that this way
people wouldn't have to subcsribe to LAA if they were already on LAD+LAU.
Now when you look at LAA archives, some people post only to LAA, some
(like me) to all three lists, and some to either LAA+LAD or LAA+LAU.
I didn't even knew that LAA existed. :-/
Perhaps Mailman should be configured so that it adds a footer to each
message, containing basic stuff such as where to go to
subscribe/unsubscribe, and where are the other related lists.
Anyway, i think your proposal makes sense. Crosspostings are bad. Ok,
now let me subscribe real quick now to LAA...
--
Florin Andrei
http://florin.myip.org/
9 Jan
9 Jan
11:48 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-dev] [admin] announce-list policy rationale
Florin Andrei wrote:
On Sun, 2004-12-12 at 13:58 +0200, Kai Vehmanen
wrote:
sorry, i'm horribly behind LA mail :(
the original rationale of the cross-posting policy was as follows:
* linux-audio-announce should have no discussions at all to keep the
volume down (so that nobody would be discouraged from subscribing).
* announcements tend to spawn interesting discussions
* these discussions should be in some way related to the announcements,
for example by being in the same mail thread.
that's why announcers are encouraged to cc: lad and lau, so that
discussions can follow.
since some people choose not to do that, folks interested in seeing all
the announcements should probably subscribe to linux-audio-announce as
well.
best regards,
jörn
when linux-audio-announce was created, it was
agreed that
announcements should be crossposted to all three lists. The
reasoning was that this way people wouldn't have to subcsribe to
LAA if they were already on LAD+LAU.
Now when you look at LAA archives, some people post only to LAA,
some (like me) to all three lists, and some to either LAA+LAD or
LAA+LAU.
I didn't even knew that LAA existed. :-/
Perhaps Mailman should be configured so that it adds a footer to each
message, containing basic stuff such as where to go to
subscribe/unsubscribe, and where are the other related lists.
Anyway, i think your proposal makes sense. Crosspostings are bad. Ok,
now let me subscribe real quick now to LAA...
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