2 Mar
2016
2 Mar
'16
10:51 p.m.
Greetings;
This has been a PIMA here for a couple years, surviving at least one full
fresh install to a new HD.
I hear a very strong thump during the bootup at about the time the
modules are loaded, which tells me the audio is alive and well.
However, when I have initially logged in and the system is ready to be
used for whatever my urges want to, if I want to hear the sound on a web
site as a news story is played, I must first call up a terminal and
issue:
alsactl restore
Now it seems to me there ought to be someplace in the junk that runs
after the login, to put a "/usr/sbin/alsactl restore", where it will be
executed as me, and this problem then should be fixed, at least until a
new install is done.
The question is where?
Thank you.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
2 Mar
2 Mar
10:58 p.m.
Now it seems to me there ought to be someplace in the
junk that runs
after the login, to put a "/usr/sbin/alsactl restore", where it will be
executed as me, and this problem then should be fixed, at least until a
new install is done.
The question is where?
~/.profile
maybe
11:29 p.m.
On Wednesday 02 March 2016 16:55:38 Cedric Roux wrote:
I'll give that a shot for S&G.
Thanks Cedric.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
Now it seems
to me there ought to be someplace in the junk that runs
after the login, to put a "/usr/sbin/alsactl restore", where it will
be executed as me, and this problem then should be fixed, at least
until a new install is done.
The question is where?
~/.profile
maybe 
3 Mar
3 Mar
12:06 a.m.
On Wed, 2 Mar 2016, Gene Heskett wrote:
This has been a PIMA here for a couple years,
surviving at least one full
fresh install to a new HD.
I hear a very strong thump during the bootup at about the time the
modules are loaded, which tells me the audio is alive and well.
However, when I have initially logged in and the system is ready to be
used for whatever my urges want to, if I want to hear the sound on a web
site as a news story is played, I must first call up a terminal and
issue:
alsactl restore
Now it seems to me there ought to be someplace in the junk that runs
after the login, to put a "/usr/sbin/alsactl restore", where it will be
executed as me, and this problem then should be fixed, at least until a
new install is done.
/etc/xdg/autostart/
or
~/.config/autostart/
Build a desktop file that has alsactl restore as it's command.
There will probably be examples in one of the above directories.
The question I have is what distro are you using that doesn't do this on
it's own already? (I am not sure what mine does to restore sound, I just
know it does)
It occures to me PA may be the thing that does this... and removing PA for
proaudio work is common.
--
Len Ovens
www.ovenwerks.net
1:08 a.m.
On Wednesday 02 March 2016 18:05:54 Len Ovens wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2016, Gene Heskett wrote:
This particular install is a special, based on wheezy, but with a pinned
hard realtime (RTAI modified) kernel for running CNC machinery. You can
get the iso from linuxcnc.org.
The only audio thing running, according to htop, is kmix. I do not see
any telltale footprints from PA in the htop listing.
This has been a PIMA here for a couple years,
surviving at least one
full fresh install to a new HD.
I hear a very strong thump during the bootup at about the time the
modules are loaded, which tells me the audio is alive and well.
However, when I have initially logged in and the system is ready to
be used for whatever my urges want to, if I want to hear the sound
on a web site as a news story is played, I must first call up a
terminal and issue:
alsactl restore
Now it seems to me there ought to be someplace in the junk that runs
after the login, to put a "/usr/sbin/alsactl restore", where it will
be executed as me, and this problem then should be fixed, at least
until a new install is done.
/etc/xdg/autostart/
or
~/.config/autostart/
Build a desktop file that has alsactl restore as it's command.
There will probably be examples in one of the above directories.
The question I have is what distro are you using that doesn't do this
on it's own already? (I am not sure what mine does to restore sound, I
just know it does)
It occures to me PA may be the thing that does this...
and removing PA
for proaudio work is common.
Likely, for a machine tool targeted OS, PA would be considered overkill.
The other 3 machines running this install are lucky if they even have a
$0.29 (USD) speaker in them to make beeps. Likely not even heard if the
machinery is running.
--
Len Ovens
www.ovenwerks.net
Thanks Len.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
1:53 a.m.
On Wed, 2 Mar 2016, Gene Heskett wrote:
I gave up finding little beepers a few years ago. I do have one I can put
in whatever machine I might need it in.
--
Len Ovens
www.ovenwerks.net
On Wednesday 02 March 2016 18:05:54 Len Ovens wrote:
Aside from me not likeing kmix :P It does say that KDE is probably
running so autostart should get scanned at a session start. (KDE uses XDG)
However, if you are going headless or CLI, .profile may make more sense.
There should be a matching alsactl save as part of shutdown. I am not sure
that the user running alsactl restore has to be the same as the final
user, /etc/rc.local may work just as well.
/etc/xdg/autostart/
or
~/.config/autostart/
Build a desktop file that has alsactl restore as it's command.
This particular install is a special, based on wheezy, but with a pinned
hard realtime (RTAI modified) kernel for running CNC machinery. You can
get the iso from linuxcnc.org.
The only audio thing running, according to htop, is kmix. I do not see
any telltale footprints from PA in the htop listing. It occures to
me PA may be the thing that does this... and removing PA
for proaudio work is common.
Likely, for a machine tool targeted OS, PA would be considered overkill.
The other 3 machines running this install are lucky if they even have a
$0.29 (USD) speaker in them to make beeps. Likely not even heard if the
machinery is running. --
Len Ovens
www.ovenwerks.net
Thanks Len.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
7:35 a.m.
On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 16:53:07 -0800 (PST), Len Ovens wrote:
KDE uses XDG
Hi,
were autostart is located depends on the environment and on the used
distro. For my Ubuntu Wily install I needed to clear XDG_CONFIG_DIRS
at top of my openbox autostart config, to get rid of unwanted
autostarts.
I don't need to do this for my Arch Linux install.
[weremouse@moonstudio ~]$ grep XDG .config/openbox/autostart
export XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=""
[weremouse@moonstudio ~]$ grep XDG
/mnt/archlinux/home/rocketmouse/.config/openbox/autostart
[weremouse@moonstudio ~]$
At least /etc/xdg/autostart/ is active by default for Ubuntu flavours
and Ubuntu derivatives, what ever WM/DE you're using.
Instead of ~/.profile, I would use ~/.bashrc. Usually bash is the login
shell, so a ~/.bashrc is available. Instead of using two
locations, ~/.profile and ~/.bashrc, I would edit just one location,
~/.bashrc.
[weremouse@moonstudio ~]$ grep -v "#" .profile
if [ -n "$BASH_VERSION" ]; then
if [ -f "$HOME/.bashrc" ]; then
. "$HOME/.bashrc"
fi
fi
if [ -d "$HOME/bin" ] ; then
PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH"
fi
[weremouse@moonstudio ~]$ ls -hAl /mnt/archlinux/home/rocketmouse/.profile
ls: cannot access /mnt/archlinux/home/rocketmouse/.profile: No such file or directory
For Gene's purpose /etc/rc.local is asking for a race condition, it
seems to be better to run the command while starting a session and not
during startup.
IMO /etc/xdg/autostart/ is the appropriate location for Gene's purpose.
Regards,
Ralf
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