8 May
2006
8 May
'06
3:28 p.m.
Hi!
Requirements in order of importance, highest first:
- not likely to get us into legal trouble
- no too obvious negative interpretations/associations
("too obvious" because it's too hard, internationaly, otherwise)
- no conflict with established open source projects
- easy to search for
Pretty much every 3 letter combo is in use by some company or
institute. Few are pronounceable. It's similar with 4 letters.
Suggestions with few (and not relevant looking) or no Google hits:
splugs - stream processing plugins
sppib - stream processing plugins in bundles
laspib - linux audio ...
buspp - bundled stream processing plugins
streamins - streaming/stream-processing plugins
sprocins - stream processing plugins
[Streaming because there are continuous i/o streams of data
as far as I understand, while there's no limitation to
audio/float anymore. Corect me if I'm wrong.]
Cheers,
Thorsten Wilms
8 May
8 May
4:20 p.m.
On Mon, 2006-05-08 at 19:28 +0200, Thorsten Wilms wrote:
Hi!
Requirements in order of importance, highest first:
- not likely to get us into legal trouble
- no too obvious negative interpretations/associations
("too obvious" because it's too hard, internationaly, otherwise)
- no conflict with established open source projects
- easy to search for
Pretty much every 3 letter combo is in use by some company or
institute. Few are pronounceable. It's similar with 4 letters.
Suggestions with few (and not relevant looking) or no Google hits:
splugs - stream processing plugins
sppib - stream processing plugins in bundles
laspib - linux audio ...
buspp - bundled stream processing plugins
streamins - streaming/stream-processing plugins
sprocins - stream processing plugins
L2, where the L is for LADSPA.
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Fingerprint: FCA7 C790 19B9 322D EB7A E1B3 4371 4650 04C7 7E2E
5:28 p.m.
On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 08:20:43PM +0200, Lars Luthman wrote:
On Mon, 2006-05-08 at 19:28 +0200, Thorsten Wilms
wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Requirements in order of importance, highest first:
> - not likely to get us into legal trouble
(snip)
L2, where the L is for LADSPA.
http://www.waves.com/content.asp?id=139
--
Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com
9 May
9 May
7 a.m.
On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 03:29:46PM -0400, Paul Winkler wrote:
On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 08:20:43PM +0200, Lars Luthman
wrote:
But I like the idea. LV2 is less taken. Nearest thing is a model of midi
controller:
http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/page/shop/flypage/product_id/8779
- Steve
On Mon, 2006-05-08 at 19:28 +0200, Thorsten Wilms
wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Requirements in order of importance, highest first:
> - not likely to get us into legal trouble
(snip)
L2, where the L is for LADSPA.
http://www.waves.com/content.asp?id=139 
2:28 p.m.
On Tue, 2006-05-09 at 09:59 +0100, Steve Harris wrote:
On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 03:29:46PM -0400, Paul Winkler
wrote:
I like LV2. Bit of a mouthful when spoken, but then so is VST.
-DR-
On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 08:20:43PM +0200, Lars
Luthman wrote:
But I like the idea. LV2 is less taken. Nearest thing is a model of midi
controller:
http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/page/shop/flypage/product_id/8779 On Mon, 2006-05-08 at 19:28 +0200, Thorsten Wilms
wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Requirements in order of importance, highest first:
> - not likely to get us into legal trouble
(snip)
L2, where the L is for LADSPA.
http://www.waves.com/content.asp?id=139 
8:43 a.m.
andym00(a)gmail.com wrote:
Dave Phillips wrote:
Yep, you right.
Rats, I really wanted it to be that rock... :)
Best,
dp
If I recall correctly LV2 was the "rock"
that the Nostromo
set down on (in the movie "Alien").
So it's cool with me. :)
Actually that was LV4-26, but it's still cool ;)
1:14 a.m.
Steve Harris <S.W.Harris(a)ecs.soton.ac.uk> writes:
LV2
What happened to the funny recursive acronyms?;). That they don't show
up in a google search don't hold water; f.ex a search for JACK get
you.. our beloved, sacred one.
How about a girlie name to accompany JACK, then?;)
Nothing beats daves' PEEP in any case..;)
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5:55 a.m.
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 07:12:33 +0200, Esben Stien wrote:
Steve Harris <S.W.Harris(a)ecs.soton.ac.uk>
writes:
They seem to be too much a matter of taste, and/or have negative
connotations in various languages. Trying to get everyone to agree on one
is just too much effort.
Feel free to try and get consensus on a word-like name, but I've lost all
enthusiasm for it. I think it's telling that the hardest part of this
whole process has been choosing a name, classic colour of the bikeshed
problem. You can argue that the name is important, but we've been happily
using LADSPA for years, and that's terrible by alomost any metric.
I've started using the name LV2 myself, if it doesn't annoy me within a
week or so, and no-one comes up with a sensible objection it will probably
become permenant. So, if you really hate it speak up now.
LV2
What happened to the funny recursive acronyms?;). That they don't show
up in a google search don't hold water; f.ex a search for JACK get
you.. our beloved, sacred one. Nothing beats daves' PEEP in any case..;)
Someone was allready using it for a free software project, and it's
visually too close to BEEP which is a widely used protocol library.
- Steve
8:57 a.m.
Steve Harris <S.W.Harris(a)ecs.soton.ac.uk> writes:
if you really hate it speak up now.
BEAP Environment for Audio Plugins
BAM Audio Mangling
ZAP Audio Plugins
A brainstorm on KLANK, PLOINK, SPLAT, SPLASH, BANG, KABOOM, CRASH,
etc;)
A name means a lot, in my opinion. It's about taking care of every
corner case;).
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http://www. s t n m
irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact
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10:15 a.m.
Lee Revell <rlrevell(a)joe-job.com> writes:
On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 14:55 +0200, Esben Stien wrote:
He he, ZAP has in the 90s also been the name of a german Hardcore/Punk
Fanzine.
Matthias
ZAP Audio Plugins
I like this one, especially if the R. Crumb reference is intentional 
12 May
12 May
9:04 a.m.
On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 07:07 -0400, Lee Revell wrote:
On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 14:55 +0200, Esben Stien wrote:
hmm ZAP. not only the least offensive recursive acronym i've seen but
it's
also catchy, has one syllable and sounds like the ZAPP. infact, i
reckon it
has more bounce to the ounce.
LV2 has non of the above but is also a good enough choice to my mind.
=)
pete.
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======================
ZAP Audio Plugins
I like this one, especially if the R. Crumb reference is intentional
6:05 p.m.
On Fri, 2006-05-12 at 12:04 +0100, peter wrote:
On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 07:07 -0400, Lee Revell wrote:
Why was 'peep' offensive? urbandictionary was of no help.
On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 14:55 +0200, Esben Stien
wrote:
hmm ZAP. not only the least offensive recursive acronym i've seen but
it's ZAP Audio Plugins
I like this one, especially if the R. Crumb reference is intentional
also catchy, has one syllable and sounds like the
ZAPP.
What's ZAPP?
infact, i
reckon it
has more bounce to the ounce.
LV2 has non of the above but is also a good enough choice to my mind.
=)
pete.
7:39 p.m.
Lee Revell wrote:
70-80's electro funk band. featuring a characteristic use of vocoders.
more bounce to the ounce is probably their best known track.
(features in la haine in the breakdancing scene if you've seen that. )
so uhm.. i like ZAPP and also like Z.A.P. the idea of a zap vocoder
plugin seems a fitting tribute to the vocoder pioneers.
not exactly relevant but i liked it enough to wade in on its behalf.
:)
On Fri, 2006-05-12 at 12:04 +0100, peter wrote:
different kind
of offensive. recursive acro's are often contrived and stretched to fit.
peep isn't SO bad and it's even palindromic if you go in for that sort of thing
but ZAP
just seems to have a lot going for it where peep seems a bit laboured.
On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 07:07 -0400, Lee Revell
wrote:
Why was 'peep' offensive? urbandictionary was of no help. On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 14:55 +0200, Esben Stien
wrote:
hmm ZAP. not only the least offensive recursive acronym i've seen but
it's
ZAP Audio Plugins
I like this one, especially if the R. Crumb reference is intentional
also catchy,
has one syllable and sounds like the ZAPP.
What's ZAPP?
> infact, i
> reckon it
> has more bounce to the ounce.
> LV2 has non of the above but is also a good enough choice to my mind.
> =)
pete.
11:12 p.m.
On Fri, 2006-05-12 at 22:39 +0100, pete wrote:
Lee Revell wrote:
I don't like ZAP at all. Sounds silly and childish.
</my2cents>
-DR-
On Fri, 2006-05-12 at 12:04 +0100, peter wrote:
different kind
of offensive. recursive acro's are often contrived and stretched to fit.
peep isn't SO bad and it's even palindromic if you go in for that sort of thing
but ZAP
just seems to have a lot going for it where peep seems a bit laboured. On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 07:07 -0400, Lee Revell
wrote:
Why was 'peep' offensive? urbandictionary was of no help. On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 14:55 +0200, Esben Stien
wrote:
> ZAP Audio Plugins
>
I like this one, especially if the R. Crumb reference is intentional
hmm ZAP. not only the least offensive recursive acronym i've seen but
it's
10 May
10 May
11:47 a.m.
On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 09:59:53AM +0100, Steve Harris wrote:
But I like the idea. LV2 is less taken.
Early work on the all important logo ;)
http://affenbande.org/~thorwil/wordpress/2006/05/10/lv2-ladspa-2/
http://affenbande.org/~thorwil/wordpress/2006/05/10/lv2-ladspa-version-2-co…
Not that I would want to push you in any direction ;)
Cheers,
Thorsten Wilms
2:16 p.m.
LAMA - Linux(Libre) Audio Modules Architecture
I hope The Dalai Lama will not object.
3:48 p.m.
What about Llama? The (Llinux|Llibre) Audio Modules Architecture, or
just a cool animal that has Ls and As in the name.
The Delay Lama is obviously named after the Dalai Lama, I don't think
there would be any serious confusion. Maybe someone would write a Delay
Lama lama plugin too. ;-)
On Wed, 10 May 2006 at 17:19 +0100, Steve Harris wrote:
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 08:16:04PM +0400, Dmitry
Baikov wrote:
--
Hans Fugal ; http://hans.fugal.net
There's nothing remarkable about it. All one has to do is hit the
right keys at the right time and the instrument plays itself.
-- Johann Sebastian Bach
LAMA - Linux(Libre) Audio Modules Architecture
I hope The Dalai Lama will not object.
Good name, but theres a well known VST plugin called Delay Lama.
- Steve
11 May
11 May
12:21 p.m.
Hans Fugal escribe:
What about Llama? The (Llinux|Llibre) Audio Modules
Architecture, or
just a cool animal that has Ls and As in the name.
Then we would be faced against a very popular Win32 application that
shouts "Winamp, it really whips the Llama's ass!"
(Even though I admit I like the name!)
BTW are we talking of an architecture deeply Linux-related? I mean, is
it completely out of scope compiling hosts and plugins over Windows,
Mac OS X or any of the BSDs?
In that case I'd focus to the "libre" concept and not to the
"linux"
concept.
My two euro cents. :)
Cordially, Ismael
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