18 Jan
2004
18 Jan
'04
8:06 p.m.
Hi all,
The name "LADCCA" was always intended to be a working name but even
though there's a long way to go, it's out there and people seem to be
using it. I wouldn't worry about it that much, but the first thing
anyone seems to say about LADCCA is "what a horrible name" :) I'm crap
at thinking up stuff like this (JACK Rack was originally called "JACK
LADSPA Host" :) so if anyone has any decent ideas, please let me know.
Cheers,
Bob
--
Bob Ham <rah(a)bash.sh>
"At some point, keystroke recorders got installed on several machines at
Valve. Our speculation is that these were done via a buffer overflow in
Outlook's preview pane." -- Gabe Newell on the Half-Life 2 source leak
19 Jan
19 Jan
12:50 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-dev] Re: [Jackit-devel] New name for ladcca?
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 12:03:37AM +0000, Bob Ham wrote:
Hi all,
The name "LADCCA" was always intended to be a working name but even
though there's a long way to go, it's out there and people seem to be
using it. I wouldn't worry about it that much, but the first thing
anyone seems to say about LADCCA is "what a horrible name" :) I'm crap
at thinking up stuff like this (JACK Rack was originally called "JACK
LADSPA Host" :) so if anyone has any decent ideas, please let me know.
LASM - linux audio session manager
LASMA - linux audio session management API
SMASH - session management API sure helps!
SMACK - session management API cures kludges?? err, no.
SMART - session management and retrieval tools?
/me ducks
--
Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com
Look! Up in the sky! It's SHARPSHOOTER IN BED WITH A GIRL!
(random hero from isometric.spaceninja.com)
1:12 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-dev] Re: [Jackit-devel] New name for ladcca?
On Sun, 2004-01-18 at 23:41, Paul Winkler wrote:
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 12:03:37AM +0000, Bob Ham
wrote:
LASH - Linux Audio Session Handler
(You know, lashes your apps together?)
-Dave
Hi all,
The name "LADCCA" was always intended to be a working name but even
though there's a long way to go, it's out there and people seem to be
using it. I wouldn't worry about it that much, but the first thing
anyone seems to say about LADCCA is "what a horrible name" :) I'm crap
at thinking up stuff like this (JACK Rack was originally called "JACK
LADSPA Host" :) so if anyone has any decent ideas, please let me know.
LASM - linux audio session manager
LASMA - linux audio session management API
SMASH - session management API sure helps!
SMACK - session management API cures kludges?? err, no.
SMART - session management and retrieval tools?
/me ducks 
5:43 a.m.
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 12:03:37AM +0000, Bob Ham wrote:
The name "LADCCA" was always intended to be
a working name but even
though there's a long way to go, it's out there and people seem to be
using it. I wouldn't worry about it that much, but the first thing
anyone seems to say about LADCCA is "what a horrible name" :) I'm crap
at thinking up stuff like this (JACK Rack was originally called "JACK
LADSPA Host" :) so if anyone has any decent ideas, please let me know.
If you think of jack as a modular synth, then LADCCA would be a Polaroid
:) maybe not eh.
JACK Snaphot?
- Steve
7:28 a.m.
New subject: [Jackit-devel] Re: [linux-audio-dev] New name for ladcca?
Hallo,
Steve Harris hat gesagt: // Steve Harris wrote:
If you think of jack as a modular synth, then LADCCA
would be a Polaroid
:) maybe not eh.
JACK Snaphot?
To take this idea a little further (over the edge): what about
"JACK Audio Setup Snapshot" or short JACKASS. Any good?
;)
ciao
--
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__
7:55 a.m.
New subject: [Jackit-devel] Re: [linux-audio-dev] New name for ladcca?
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 12:25:11 +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo,
Steve Harris hat gesagt: // Steve Harris wrote:
It has a certain something :) Another angle might bee a freezer analogy,
CryoJACK? Probably not obvious enough what it does.
- Steve
If you think of jack as a modular synth, then
LADCCA would be a Polaroid
:) maybe not eh.
JACK Snaphot?
To take this idea a little further (over the edge): what about
"JACK Audio Setup Snapshot" or short JACKASS. Any good?
11:20 a.m.
New subject: [Jackit-devel] Re: [linux-audio-dev] New name for ladcca?
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 11:51:36AM +0000, Steve Harris wrote:
It has a certain something :) Another angle might bee a freezer analogy,
CryoJACK? Probably not obvious enough what it does.
heheh.
fwiw, LADCCA isn't restricted to JACK apps (you might
use it for a purely alsa-sequencer session) so I don't think
JACK really belongs in the name.
--
Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com
Look! Up in the sky! It's PRESIDENT HEATHEN!
(random hero from isometric.spaceninja.com)
JACK Snaphot?
To take this idea a little further (over the edge): what about
"JACK Audio Setup Snapshot" or short JACKASS. Any good?
1:20 p.m.
New subject: [Jackit-devel] Re: [linux-audio-dev] New name for ladcca?
Hallo,
Paul Winkler hat gesagt: // Paul Winkler wrote:
fwiw, LADCCA isn't restricted to JACK apps (you
might
use it for a purely alsa-sequencer session) so I don't think
JACK really belongs in the name.
You're right of course. Here's a serious suggestion:
LACE - Linux Audio Configuration Environment
I also liked LASH, which was proposed as well.
ciao
--
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__
1:30 p.m.
New subject: [Jackit-devel] Re: [linux-audio-dev] New name for ladcca?
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 06:17:02PM +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote:
How about "Gaffer", both a reference to the tape beloved of all roadies
and "The foreman or overman of a gang of workmen; a headman." (oed).
- Steve
fwiw, LADCCA
isn't restricted to JACK apps (you might
use it for a purely alsa-sequencer session) so I don't think
JACK really belongs in the name.
You're right of course. Here's a serious suggestion:
LACE - Linux Audio Configuration Environment
I also liked LASH, which was proposed as well. 
1:45 p.m.
New subject: [Jackit-devel] Re: [linux-audio-dev] New name for ladcca?
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 05:27:10PM +0000, Steve Harris wrote:
How about "Gaffer", both a reference to the
tape beloved of all roadies
isn't that thing spelled "gaffa"? guess, there are both possibilities
and nobody really knows...
martin
2:47 p.m.
New subject: [Jackit-devel] Re: [linux-audio-dev] New name for ladcca?
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 06:42:36PM +0100, martin rumori wrote:
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 05:27:10PM +0000, Steve Harris
wrote:
according to webster's collegiate, "gaffer" (4th meaning) is a
lighting technician for film or TV. IIRC "gaffer's tape" is named
after these guys. No definition listed for "gaffa" which I haven't
heard of before.
Back to the topic - so far, I like both Gaffer and LASH.
--
Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com
Look! Up in the sky! It's ANTI-FIST FROM HELL!
(random hero from isometric.spaceninja.com)
How about "Gaffer", both a reference to
the tape beloved of all roadies
isn't that thing spelled "gaffa"? guess, there are both possibilities
and nobody really knows...
4:01 p.m.
New subject: [Jackit-devel] Re: [linux-audio-dev] New name for ladcca?
On Mon, 2004-01-19 at 18:38, Paul Winkler wrote:
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 06:42:36PM +0100, martin
rumori wrote:
I'm not sure I like gaffer, purely from an API prefix perspective :)
LASH and LACE I like, and I'm torn between the two; LACE is the quickest
to type, but LASH is much cooler.
Thanks for the excellent suggestions, everyone.
Bob
--
Bob Ham <rah(a)bash.sh>
"At some point, keystroke recorders got installed on several machines at
Valve. Our speculation is that these were done via a buffer overflow in
Outlook's preview pane." -- Gabe Newell on the Half-Life 2 source leak
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 05:27:10PM +0000, Steve
Harris wrote:
according to webster's collegiate, "gaffer" (4th meaning) is a
lighting technician for film or TV. IIRC "gaffer's tape" is named
after these guys. No definition listed for "gaffa" which I haven't
heard of before.
Back to the topic - so far, I like both Gaffer and LASH. How about "Gaffer", both a reference to
the tape beloved of all roadies
isn't that thing spelled "gaffa"? guess, there are both possibilities
and nobody really knows... 
4:17 p.m.
New subject: [Jackit-devel] Re: [linux-audio-dev] New name for ladcca?
On Monday 19 January 2004 20.57, Bob Ham wrote:
[...]
I'm not sure I like gaffer, purely from an API
prefix perspective
:)
Good point. I have to call Audiality "Ady" to get a sensible prefix -
but that still seems to be pretty unique.
LASH and LACE I like, and I'm torn between the
two; LACE is the
quickest to type, but LASH is much cooler.
Not much of a difference on Dvorak. Both are very easy to type.
Fix your layout! ;-)
Anyway, I like both the acronym and the meaning of LASH.
++LASH;
And yes, there seems to be a shell named 'lash'. Can't seem to find
it, though...
//David Olofson - Programmer, Composer, Open Source Advocate
.- Audiality -----------------------------------------------.
| Free/Open Source audio engine for games and multimedia. |
| MIDI, modular synthesis, real time effects, scripting,... |
`-----------------------------------> http://audiality.org -'
--- http://olofson.net --- http://www.reologica.se ---
5:55 p.m.
New subject: [Jackit-devel] Re: [linux-audio-dev] New name for ladcca?
On Mon, 2004-01-19 at 14:57, Bob Ham wrote:
I'm not sure I like gaffer, purely from an API
prefix perspective :)
LASH and LACE I like, and I'm torn between the two; LACE is the quickest
to type, but LASH is much cooler.
LACE is quicker to type than LASH?
Alternating hands is quicker than using one hand for multiple
keystrokes.
LACE: Right, Left, Left, Left
LASH: Right, Left, Left, Right
LACE actually makes you use the same finger twice if you're properly
touch typing, which is the slowest situation of all.
... Wow, I need something to do. :)
-Dave
11:39 p.m.
New subject: [Jackit-devel] Re: [linux-audio-dev] New name for ladcca?
On Monday 19 January 2004 22.53, Dave Robillard wrote:
On Mon, 2004-01-19 at 14:57, Bob Ham wrote:
That's why Dvorak has all the vowels on the left half of the keyboard;
LACE: R L R L
LASH: R L R R
LASH has all letters but the L on the home row, and the SH is just a
right hard "roll" movement, so it's still easy to type.
I'm not sure I like gaffer, purely from an
API prefix perspective
:) LASH and LACE I like, and I'm torn between the two; LACE is
the quickest to type, but LASH is much cooler.
LACE is quicker to type than LASH?
Alternating hands is quicker than using one hand for multiple
keystrokes.
LACE: Right, Left, Left, Left
LASH: Right, Left, Left, Right LACE actually makes you use the same finger twice if
you're
properly touch typing, which is the slowest situation of all.
Exactly. Painful. And that very rarely happens with Dvorak, at least
not with english or swedish words.
It is a royal PITA to type on a Dvorak layout with one hand,
though...! *hehe* Though there is one-hand Dvorak of course, and the
usual "mirror" hack.
... Wow, I need something to do. :)
I have lots of things to do, but that doesn't seem to help...
//David Olofson - Programmer, Composer, Open Source Advocate
.- Audiality -----------------------------------------------.
| Free/Open Source audio engine for games and multimedia. |
| MIDI, modular synthesis, real time effects, scripting,... |
`-----------------------------------> http://audiality.org -'
--- http://olofson.net --- http://www.reologica.se ---
20 Jan
20 Jan
1:45 a.m.
New subject: [Jackit-devel] Re: [linux-audio-dev] New name for ladcca?
On Mon, 2004-01-19 at 22:36, David Olofson wrote:
That's why Dvorak has all the vowels on the left
half of the keyboard;
LACE: R L R L
LASH: R L R R
LASH has all letters but the L on the home row, and the SH is just a
right hard "roll" movement, so it's still easy to type.
Touche.
In the interests of not starting a qwerty/dvorak war, I vote typing
simplicity is a really bad criteria for naming things. :)
-Dave
19 Jan
19 Jan
2:58 p.m.
New subject: [Jackit-devel] Re: [linux-audio-dev] New name for ladcca?
Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo,
Steve Harris hat gesagt: // Steve Harris wrote:
++votes
i suggest to expand it to "JACK and Alsa Sequencer Snapshot" instead, to
include all of its design targets in the name.
apart from the joke value, i think it's nice to either name it something
with "JACK" or "LA" in it, for some sort of corporate acronym culture
:)
--
"I never use EQ, never, never, never. I previously used to use mic
positioning but I've even given up on that too."
- Jezar on http://www.audiomelody.com
Jörn Nettingsmeier
Kurfürstenstr 49, 45138 Essen, Germany
http://spunk.dnsalias.org (my server)
http://www.linuxaudiodev.org (Linux Audio Developers)
If you think of jack as a modular synth, then
LADCCA would be a Polaroid
:) maybe not eh.
JACK Snaphot?
To take this idea a little further (over the edge): what about
"JACK Audio Setup Snapshot" or short JACKASS. Any good?
3:29 p.m.
New subject: [Jackit-devel] Re: [linux-audio-dev] New name for ladcca?
Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo,
Steve Harris hat gesagt: // Steve Harris wrote:
as an additional bonus, this has some logo potential with a cuteness
coefficient on par with tux.
btw, while browsing a dictionary i also found "laughing jackass", which
i'm told is an australian species of kingfisher, aka kookaburra. see
http://aviary.owls.com/kookaburra/kookaburra.html for a picture.
with some artistic liberties in letter ordering, this could be expanded to
LA G
U NG
HI J
AC
K
A
SS
:
linux audio grand unified next generation hook-up infrastructure for
jack and alsa sequencer snapshots.
i must say i rather like it :-D
--
"I never use EQ, never, never, never. I previously used to use mic
positioning but I've even given up on that too."
- Jezar on http://www.audiomelody.com
Jörn Nettingsmeier
Kurfürstenstr 49, 45138 Essen, Germany
http://spunk.dnsalias.org (my server)
http://www.linuxaudiodev.org (Linux Audio Developers)
If you think of jack as a modular synth, then
LADCCA would be a Polaroid
:) maybe not eh.
JACK Snaphot?
To take this idea a little further (over the edge): what about
"JACK Audio Setup Snapshot" or short JACKASS. Any good? 
20 Jan
20 Jan
5:21 a.m.
++LASH.
It is a real word, short and sweet, with a meaning that is relevant to
its purpose. I rather like it.
[pb]
2:12 p.m.
Dear list,
I can't believe I am chiming in on this because I know nothing about the
project or the individuals involved. So consider this an "outside the
beltway opinion" from Joe Sixpack (politics are in the air here) ---
ignore it at your discretion... but LASH says "to cut with a whip" to
me. Ouch! While it is indeed an English word, it isn't one with the best
connotations. Plus it'd be really hard to google.
I do alot of work with Wine which has the same problems. I always hear
"whine" which carries bad connotations. And googling it brings up
bazillions of links for online wine merchants.
How about you rid the world of OMCA (one more cryptic acronym) and call
it Linux Audio Kit or something like that?
I'll go back to my Budweiser and reruns of America's Funniest Home
Videos now... %)
- mo
===================================
Michael Ost, Software Architect
Muse Research, Inc.
most(a)museresearch.com
On Tue, 2004-01-20 at 01:30, Pete Bessman wrote:
++LASH.
It is a real word, short and sweet, with a meaning that is relevant to
its purpose. I rather like it.
[pb]
5:58 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-dev] New name for ladcca: LASH
Just to let you know I decided on LASH, which stands for 'LASH Audio
Session Handler'. The recursive 'L' is because I've never felt
particularly bound to linux *cough*hurd*cough*. API, website and
mailing list changes to follow (at some point :)
Cheers all,
Bob
--
Bob Ham <rah(a)bash.sh>
"At some point, keystroke recorders got installed on several machines at
Valve. Our speculation is that these were done via a buffer overflow in
Outlook's preview pane." -- Gabe Newell on the Half-Life 2 source leak
21 Jan
21 Jan
12:16 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-dev] New name for ladcca: LASH
At Tue, 20 Jan 2004 21:54:41 +0000,
Bob Ham wrote:
Just to let you know I decided on LASH, which stands
for 'LASH Audio
w00t. I take all the credit, because I rule.
/me hides
Session Handler'. The recursive 'L' is
because I've never felt
particularly bound to linux *cough*hurd*cough*. API, website and
You too eh? I tried it a ways back, but I'm not an OS hacker (at the
moment) and it isn't to well suited to what I do. I hope they get it
together, it would be rather cool
[pb]
1:57 a.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-dev] New name for ladcca: LASH
On Tue, 2004-01-20 at 23:25, Pete Bessman wrote:
At Tue, 20 Jan 2004 21:54:41 +0000,
Bob Ham wrote:
On Mon, 2004-01-19 at 00:09, Dave Robillard wrote:
Just to let you know I decided on LASH, which
stands for 'LASH Audio
w00t. I take all the credit, because I rule.
/me hides LASH - Linux Audio Session Handler
(You know, lashes your apps together?)
-Dave
Yeah, that's right. :)
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