On Wednesday 06 September 2006 16:30, nescivi wrote: Would they be willing at all to pay for the development? Flo -- Palimm Palimm! http://tapas.affenbande.org

On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 06:55:22PM +0200, Florian Schmidt wrote: Probably not. And you need not only the driver, but also a dedicated mixed app similar to hdspmixer. If I would be a bit more familiar with USB and how things USB are done in Linux, I'd probably be prepared to write a JACK backend for this device. It's a 'pro' device anyway, so I wonder if an ALSA driver is worth the effort. -- FA Lascia la spina, cogli la rosa.

Is it not legal? I know the license for the linux kernel provides (last time I looked) an exception -- the intent of which was to allow porting of existing drivers/filesystems, etc, from other unices to linux -- which would clearly not be derived works. And there are the GPL_ONLY symbols and such... sort of implying the symbols which are not GPL_ONLY are fair game for binary-only drivers. And there are some binary-only storage drivers I know of -- cheap SATA software RAID and such usually -- I seem to recall the video guys are perhaps the worst offenders in terms of pushing binary-only drivefs, I guess that's still true. Just saying, judging by the current state of affairs -- loads of existing and current binary-only drivers for linux floating around for brand new hardware unhampered by litigation -- if it's not legal, it might as well be. Without saying too much, I have some interest in this beyond just conversation. To clarify my position, I do think binary-only drivers suck, and I would be the first to advise people not to buy, e.g. esp. storage solutions which rely on binary-only HBA drivers, and I advocate so much as I am able within the company which employs me to avoid such things. But to say they are not legal is pretty strong, in view of the extant binary-only drivers floating around. If they really are illegal, then I'd want to know that. If it is so, it seems not to be enforced at all. Oh, yeah, IANAL, of course, and consequently I stupidly attempt to apply rational thinking to licenses and such. Programmers and lawyers mixed together is a recipe for insanity. -- steve __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 05:56:53PM -0400, Lee Revell wrote: Since it's a USB device, I wonder if it's USB "standards-compliant". Given there is no OSX driver either, the answer might be be no in which case the driver would pretty much have to written from scratch and could not be reused. -- Martin

Le lundi 11 septembre 2006 16:01, Joshua Boyd a écrit : Well, for me, the fact that there is no osx driver may well be an indication that the producti *is* standards compiant ;) P

On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 04:30:24PM +0200, nescivi wrote: They have already released specs for some older cards. I wonder how they feel about people desiring to write drivers for linux when the older cards never had support added? At this point the older cards are kinda pricy though. I believe it would cost me less to buy a Delta 44 than it would to buy the equivelent Marian card, and I suspect the Delta44 is a bit nicer. But people in Europe might find the pricing different. PS, if anyone wants to send me (or sell me a used one for well under retail pricing) a Marc 2 or 4 of the sort that specs are posted for, I'd be happy to write an alsa driver for it. I have experience writing linux drivers for other hardware under NDA. If someone did this, once I had the Marc driver done, I'd be happy to try to approach Marian about UCON information. -- Joshua D. Boyd jdboyd(a)jdboyd.net http://www.jdboyd.net/ http://www.joshuaboyd.org/