28 Feb
2013
28 Feb
'13
12:23 a.m.
On 02/26/2013 11:40 PM, APO33 wrote:
There was also a presentation by Silvia Pfeiffer at linux.conf.au about the
use of WebRTC to do non-centralised video conferencing. It was at 10:40 in
MCC3 on Wednesday if you are looking at the program at
http://lca2013.linux.org.au/programme/schedule
At some point the videos and slides will be linked to this, but in the
meantime the abstract can be found here:
http://lca2013.linux.org.au/schedule/30040/view_talk?day=None
The video is currently available at
http://mirror.linux.org.au/linux.conf.au/2013/ogv/Code_up_your_own_video_co…
or other formats (webm, mp4) at
http://mirror.linux.org.au/linux.conf.au/2013/
Regards
jonathan
The idea is that the final user will stream his
sound and video with his
browser and everyone could see/hear him and do the same via their browser.
Did you already take a look at the possibilities of WebRTC?
http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/webrtc/basics/ 
28 Feb
28 Feb
3:19 a.m.
New subject: Floss alternative to red5
On Thu, February 28, 2013 10:22 am, Jonathan Woithe wrote:
In case you would like to also have some 3d functionality I just came
across this example for using webrtc with threejs*
http://stemkoski.github.com/Three.js/
See the webcamtest and webcam texture examples.
*https://github.com/mrdoob/three.js/wiki
Has some interesting possibilites for browser based 3d multimedia. 3js
will also load exported blender models for rapid game development.
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Patrick Shirkey
Boost Hardware Ltd
On 02/26/2013
11:40 PM, APO33 wrote:
There was also a presentation by Silvia Pfeiffer at linux.conf.au about
the
use of WebRTC to do non-centralised video conferencing. It was at 10:40
in
MCC3 on Wednesday if you are looking at the program at
http://lca2013.linux.org.au/programme/schedule
At some point the videos and slides will be linked to this, but in the
meantime the abstract can be found here:
http://lca2013.linux.org.au/schedule/30040/view_talk?day=None
The video is currently available at
http://mirror.linux.org.au/linux.conf.au/2013/ogv/Code_up_your_own_video_co…
or other formats (webm, mp4) at
http://mirror.linux.org.au/linux.conf.au/2013/
The idea is that the final user will stream his
sound and video with
his
browser and everyone could see/hear him and do
the same via their
browser.
Did you already take a look at the possibilities of WebRTC?
http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/webrtc/basics/ 
10:16 a.m.
New subject: Floss alternative to red5
Hi Jonathan, Jeremy, Patrick,
We are testing a lot webRTC of course! it's seems one of the main
amazing AV web developpement because of html5 being such easy and
great, should we say futur standard or is it already one?
Also do you think html5 and the work of access local and display could
be implemented without webRTC with getUserMedia(, createObjectURL? and
for example only use the audio... I am watching the conference at the
moment, mayeb she have the answer?!!
I am wondering if we could also combined gstreamer+html5 (or other
audio good floss software) on a server...
So for you webRTC is THE solution for AV web based project alternative
to red5 and flash? Is anyone have tested anything using python or java?
thank for your answers!
cheers
Julien
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APO33
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On 02/26/2013
11:40 PM, APO33 wrote:
There was also a presentation by Silvia Pfeiffer at linux.conf.au about the
use of WebRTC to do non-centralised video conferencing. It was at 10:40 in
MCC3 on Wednesday if you are looking at the program at
http://lca2013.linux.org.au/programme/schedule
At some point the videos and slides will be linked to this, but in the
meantime the abstract can be found here:
http://lca2013.linux.org.au/schedule/30040/view_talk?day=None
The video is currently available at
http://mirror.linux.org.au/linux.conf.au/2013/ogv/Code_up_your_own_video_co…
or other formats (webm, mp4) at
http://mirror.linux.org.au/linux.conf.au/2013/
Regards
jonathan
The idea is that the final user will stream his
sound and video with his
browser and everyone could see/hear him and do the same via their browser.
Did you already take a look at the possibilities of WebRTC?
http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/webrtc/basics/
12:28 p.m.
New subject: Floss alternative to red5
On Thu, February 28, 2013 8:16 pm, APO33 wrote:
Hi Jonathan, Jeremy, Patrick,
We are testing a lot webRTC of course! it's seems one of the main
amazing AV web developpement because of html5 being such easy and
great, should we say futur standard or is it already one?
Also do you think html5 and the work of access local and display could
be implemented without webRTC with getUserMedia(, createObjectURL? and
for example only use the audio... I am watching the conference at the
moment, mayeb she have the answer?!!
I am wondering if we could also combined gstreamer+html5 (or other
audio good floss software) on a server...
Yes it is possible t use gstreamer or icecast, shoutcast.
So for you webRTC is THE solution for AV web based
project alternative
to red5 and flash?
It's the open standard which is being promoted by Google, Apple, Mozilla,
etc... You can feel confident that it will not be a waste of your time to
build with it.
Is anyone have tested anything using python or java?
It is trivial to produce html5 with python or java. What specific
functionality are you planning/looking for?
thank for your answers!
cheers
Julien
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On
02/26/2013 11:40 PM, APO33 wrote:
There was also a presentation by Silvia Pfeiffer at linux.conf.au about
the
use of WebRTC to do non-centralised video conferencing. It was at 10:40
in
MCC3 on Wednesday if you are looking at the program at
http://lca2013.linux.org.au/programme/schedule
At some point the videos and slides will be linked to this, but in the
meantime the abstract can be found here:
http://lca2013.linux.org.au/schedule/30040/view_talk?day=None
The video is currently available at
http://mirror.linux.org.au/linux.conf.au/2013/ogv/Code_up_your_own_video_co…
or other formats (webm, mp4) at
http://mirror.linux.org.au/linux.conf.au/2013/
Regards
jonathan
The idea is that the final user will stream his
sound and video with
his
browser and everyone could see/hear him and do
the same via their
browser.
Did you already take a look at the possibilities of WebRTC?
http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/webrtc/basics/ 
3:05 p.m.
New subject: Floss alternative to red5
On 02/28/2013 12:28 PM, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
For me it is. At work we're already using it in pilots with clients
(videocalling) and so far it works better than any Flash-based solution.
On Thu, February 28, 2013 8:16 pm, APO33 wrote:
> Hi Jonathan, Jeremy, Patrick,
> We are testing a lot webRTC of course! it's seems one of the main
> amazing AV web developpement because of html5 being such easy and
> great, should we say futur standard or is it already one?
It's still a draft.
> Also do you think html5 and the work of access
local and display could
> be implemented without webRTC with getUserMedia(, createObjectURL? and
> for example only use the audio...
No idea, should be possible I guess.
I am watching the conference at the
moment, mayeb
she have the answer?!!
I am wondering if we could also combined gstreamer+html5 (or other
audio good floss software) on a server...
Yes it is possible t use gstreamer or icecast, shoutcast.
> So for you webRTC is THE solution for AV web based project alternative
> to red5 and flash? It's the open standard which is being promoted by
Google, Apple, Mozilla,
etc... You can feel confident that it will not be a waste of your time to
build with it.
Afaik Apple is not involved. Besides, they would want H264 as the
standard videocodec, not VP8.
Jeremy
5:34 p.m.
New subject: Floss alternative to red5
On Fri, March 1, 2013 1:04 am, Jeremy Jongepier wrote:
On 02/28/2013 12:28 PM, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
For me it is. At work we're already using it in pilots with clients
(videocalling) and so far it works better than any Flash-based solution.
s/Apple/Samsung|Intel/
Bah they all look the same these days anyway ;-)
--
Patrick Shirkey
Boost Hardware Ltd
On Thu, February 28, 2013 8:16 pm, APO33 wrote:
> Hi Jonathan, Jeremy, Patrick,
> We are testing a lot webRTC of course! it's seems one of the main
> amazing AV web developpement because of html5 being such easy and
> great, should we say futur standard or is it already one?
It's still a draft.
> Also do you think html5 and the work of
access local and display could
> be implemented without webRTC with getUserMedia(, createObjectURL? and
> for example only use the audio...
No idea, should be possible I guess.
I am watching the conference at the
moment,
mayeb she have the answer?!!
I am wondering if we could also combined gstreamer+html5 (or other
audio good floss software) on a server...
Yes it is possible t use gstreamer or icecast, shoutcast.
> So for you webRTC is THE solution for AV web based project alternative
> to red5 and flash? It's the open standard which is being
promoted by Google, Apple,
Mozilla,
etc... You can feel confident that it will not be a waste of your time
to
build with it.
Afaik Apple is not involved. Besides, they would want H264 as the
standard videocodec, not VP8.
2 Mar
2 Mar
7:51 p.m.
New subject: Floss alternative to red5
On Thursday, February 28, 2013 10:16:20 AM APO33 wrote:
Hi Jonathan, Jeremy, Patrick,
We are testing a lot webRTC of course! it's seems one of the main
amazing AV web developpement because of html5 being such easy and
great, should we say futur standard or is it already one?
Also do you think html5 and the work of access local and display could
be implemented without webRTC with getUserMedia(, createObjectURL? and
for example only use the audio... I am watching the conference at the
moment, mayeb she have the answer?!!
I am wondering if we could also combined gstreamer+html5 (or other
audio good floss software) on a server...
So for you webRTC is THE solution for AV web based project alternative
to red5 and flash? Is anyone have tested anything using python or java?
WebRTC is designed for browser-to-browser communication. It's not designed for
the one-to-many streaming paradigm like RTMP is.
That said, the spec for RTMP is an open spec, and there are FOSS solutions for
it. It's only the client side flash player the is proprietary, and even then
99+% of people with browsers (excluding mobile) have flash installed. You might
look into the RTMP module that can be built into NGINX to used it as an RTMP /
HLS server.
https://github.com/arut/nginx-rtmp-module
It works well in conjunction with ffmpeg encoding the live source feed.
The problem with native HTML5 is that it works great for canned VOD content,
but offers no solution for live streaming content.
There is a new standard being finalized called MPEG-Dash that will allow native
live streaming over HTML5. It also has a sister project MSE (Media Source
Extension) which will provide the javascript API to control it on the client.
Currently it is available in the latest versions of Chrome. Firefox has
limited support if you enable it as a build option, but of course that is for
the Web-M flavor of the spec rather the h264 like Chrome. And I don't think the
MSE stuff has landed in Firefox yet. IE will no doubt offer it in the future
since they are taking part in developing the MSE spec.
So keep you eye on this. It might be something that becomes ready to test in
production environments in the next year.
You can test it with Chrome here:
http://dash-mse-test.appspot.com/
MPEG-Dash spec:
http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnu…
MSE working draft:
https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-media/raw-file/tip/media-source/media-source.ht…
GPAC has a working MPEG-Dash muxer for h264 content:
http://gpac.wp.mines-telecom.fr/
libdash is availble for anyone looking to roll their own:
https://github.com/bitmovin/libdash
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