Wanted to post a quick success story with the 2.5 kernel series: Machine processor VIA C3 Ezra cpu MHz : 932.918 bogomips : 1843.20 256MB ram Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50) Debian unstable. This is the little VIA mini-itx I use for email, horrible little built-in Via audio. Built linux-2.5.72 from BK source, installed ALSA 0.9.4 libs+goop, built jack 0.71.2 from debian source, also had to recompile alsaplayer (from cvs) After that, it Just Works. As i said, horrible chipset, but with jackd --tmpdir=/mnt/ramfs --realtime -P 20 -d alsa -d via82xx:0,0 -p1024 -n3 -r 32000 -s -zr -P & I can stream mp3's from my SLiMP3 server to alsaplayer (text) with no dropouts, while running KDE3.2 and typing this email! I made a few passes at this machine with 2.4, but i could _not get useable audio - overwhelmed by pops and crackles. Thanks everyone. I have the M-Audio MobliePre USB recognized also, but no sound there yet. cliffw